Somebody Doesn't Know Shit About Tools

valis

Super Anarchist
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And that would be me, sometimes...   

So I've been considering getting a compound miter saw (?) for casual chopping up of pieces of wood.  Up to this point I've used a handheld circular saw for cutting 1x12"s down to size (for work-holding fixtures) and building small stuff that needs square or miter cuts.  I've done OK and haven't lost any fingers, but I would like to have my cuts be a bit truer, cleaner, and safer. 

So is a compound miter saw a reasonable addition to my collection, and what might be a decent non-junk brand / model?  I'm not doing fine cabinetry, but want something I won't have to fight.

And here's a quick rant.  I hate Chinese screws!  I've had them snap way too easy, and the head gets reamed out even when I am using the correct driver (not always, yesterday I used the tip of my pocket knife to get a screw out.)  There's a reason they call that metal "Chinesium".

 

Snaggletooth

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Ryobi 12" Sliding Compound Miter Saw (TSS121)


I belive in Ryobi stuffe.                                            :)

 

IStream

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Budget?

If money is less of a concern, Bosch makes a nice unit that uses a pantograph rather than sliding rails. It's less vulnerable to dust and crap gumming up the works and it lets you use it right up against a rear wall, which can be handy at times. 

 

hdra

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We've got the smaller 7 1/4" Ryobi sliding compound miter saw and have been very happy with it - hard to beat for the money.  We really have enjoyed the portability as it's gotten used on the porch, in the garage, and have taken it over to a friends place a few times to help build some picnic tables.

 

Leeroy Jenkins

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Budget?

If money is less of a concern, Bosch makes a nice unit that uses a pantograph rather than sliding rails. It's less vulnerable to dust and crap gumming up the works and it lets you use it right up against a rear wall, which can be handy at times. 
Festool's has the sliders in front and lets you push it up against the wall as well.  The first time I saw one I thought "Brilliant!  And such an obvious thing to do, why aren't they all like this?" 

Of course it's probably 2X the price of the Bosch but hey, it's not my money. 

 

Mrleft8

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Sorry to have to stomp on the cat, but.... Ryobi is crap.

 Get a DeWalt 12" or a Rigid 12".

 I prefer the DeWalt, but the Rigid is good too. I don't like the laser guides, and put a piece of tape over them because they're almost always slightly wrong. For rough framing, they'd be fine.

Festool, Bosch,.... You're wasting money better spent on better wood.

 Spend $120 and buy a 60-80 TPI carbide blade. I like Amana, but DMT, and Freud make decent all purpose blades. If you cut a lot of PT SYP get a Freud. They seem to take more abuse, but still deliver a fairly decent cut. Do not get a thin kerf blade.

 
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Point Break

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Festool's has the sliders in front and lets you push it up against the wall as well.  The first time I saw one I thought "Brilliant!  And such an obvious thing to do, why aren't they all like this?" 

Of course it's probably 2X the price of the Bosch but hey, it's not my money. 
Got one on order.............its only money...........

 

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Ishmael

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My go-to is Makita for power tools, but for the amount of tight work I do I use a manual saw. Silky smooth cuts, super accurate and no risk of cutting my fingers off. Lee Valley Nobex saw. 

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Lowly Crew

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WTF is it with needing a 12" SCMS?

I use the 8 1/4" Makita for everything.

Cheap throw away blades, light compact tool.

How many fucking people really need a trim finish on a fucking 4x4?

SMH.

 

Grabbler

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Sorry to have to stomp on the cat, but.... Ryobi is crap.

 Get a DeWalt 12" or a Rigid 12".

 I prefer the DeWalt, but the Rigid is good too. I don't like the laser guides, and put a piece of tape over them because they're almost always slightly wrong. For rough framing, they'd be fine.

Festool, Bosch,.... You're wasting money better spent on better wood.

 Spend $120 and buy a 60-80 TPI carbide blade. I like Amana, but DMT, and Freud make decent all purpose blades. If you cut a lot of PT SYP get a Freud. They seem to take more abuse, but still deliver a fairly decent cut. Do not get a thin kerf blade.
The Bosch and the DeWalt are in the same price bracket...Ryobi makes decent tools if you're not making a living with them...I have tools I make a living with that get used most every day...and I have a handful of 18V Ryobis that get pulled out for shit that doesn't get done every day...the price point on them is perfect for that...1/2" impact wrench for tire changes/lag bolts/J-bolts/trailer shit, cordless finish nailer for when you wanna throw in a handful of nails without busting out a compressor, small jobsite/porch blower, r/o sander for touch-ups...and my favorite, the battery operated caulk gun which is the absolute fuckin' bomb for laying down beads of  NP-1 or other polyurethane sealants...big miter saw I have and like the Bosch which I use on trim jobs...but I've got a 7-1/4" Kobalt (Lowe's house brand) which weighs about a 1/3rd as much that I am more than happy to use on day to day basis for shit that doesn't need such tight tolerances...horses for courses...

 

Fah Kiew Tu

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Sorry to have to stomp on the cat, but.... Ryobi is crap.

 Get a DeWalt 12" or a Rigid 12".
This. I've had a DeWalt 12" sliding compound saw for 20 years. Built 2 houses and a big shed using it. One replacement set of brushes, a few blades. It's still tight and accurate.

Ryobi are the tools I buy to trash or lend, which often comes to pretty much the same thing.

For a smaller lightweight one, my old Hitachi 8" saw was brilliant. Unfortunately it was so good that some arsehole stole it.

FKT

 
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