Someone tried to kill me tonight

Pertinacious Tom

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To answer a few querstions, the gun was a Smith and Wesson, it had been stolen three days prior in a second degree burglary and funnily enough my backup was who took that report. 
Smith and Wesson knew that theft was a possibility and they recklessly produced the gun anyway? They should be held re$pon$ible!

 

Greever

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random said:
So have you considered that the impact on Green may have been far greater by shooting someone? 

That's really stupid greever.  Looks like Green is not the kind of cop that shoots Australian women in pyjamas after they call 911.
Yes it was stupid.

After thinking about my comment, and learning more details, I did offer my apologies to Vernon.

 

atoyot

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Slightly off topic, but related...

What the hell had these guys shoplifted that they were willing to kill or be killed for? Clearly not a package of Wriggly's Spearmint gum......
It would appear that some don't need a reason  or a good haul from the checkout line, to pop a cop.  Neither life nor consequences have any value to a wide swath of US society.  I guess that bit about not wanting to go back to the hoosegow.

Officer Green's valor demonstrates the higher ground taken, when he probably could have gotten away with a more controversial outcome (depending upon which demographic might get pissed off). 

 
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Pertinacious Tom

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I'm sort of surprised that OKC doesn't have partnered cars...
I'm not. A car is cheap compared to a cop and there's that "level of service" thing that V mentioned above. He can accomplish it in one place while another officer accomplishes a different purpose in a different place, all for the price of a relatively cheap second car.

And at some additional risk to V's life and safety. He seems glad to take that risk and seems to enjoy dealing with assholes every day, a few of whom will even try to kill him.

I have a very bright line when it comes to cops. They're like V and like cameras because they think a camera is more likely to vindicate than incriminate them, or they're bad cops. V has helpfully explained why it's sometimes wrong and sometimes just plain embarrassing to have that video played in court but overall he likes cameras so I like him.

 

Vgree

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Tom, that is 100% correct. 99% of calls can be handled by one officer, so the city buys a second car and spreads us out. It is a fact of the job, when you sign up you know you will sometimes have to deal with a call on your own.

I would also like to clarify something, I don't "enjoy dealing with assholes", I just happen to be reasonably good at it and have a few skills that allow me to do it better than most. I would rather deal with the assholes of the world so some innocent person who doesn't have my skill set doesn't have to deal with them. 

But also, no one here needs to get an overly high opinion of me, about 95% of my job is being an adult for people that can't.

I am incredibly lucky to have some great superiors who have taken me under their wing and trained me. I figure if I surround myself with people who are better than me some of it will filter over. I work with some true heros, guys who have been in far worse situations than me and made far tougher choices than I have.

 

Vgree

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That is the best part of the job, getting to take a photo with some kid who ran up to me in a park because she wants to be a police officer.

Now you all know the actual department I work for. "The Village" is a small city that is bordered on all 4 sides by OKC. I chose to work for a smaller department for the community aspect of it. We have about 25 officers and the population of our city is about 10K. Our city also participates in the Oklahoma County Multi-Jurisdictional SWAT team by sending 3 of our officers to training 2 days a month and 2 weeks at the end of the year. I am fortunate enough to have made that team so  I get an incredibly high level of training compared to the average officer. 

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mad

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I can't help thinking you showed too much restraint - but then I'd make a lousy cop.

Glad it worked out - my kid is a cop so I'm maybe a little closer to this than most.

the gun was a Smith and Wesson, it had been stolen three days prior in a second degree burglary

Perfect illustration of why there is a need for a lot fewer guns, especially handguns.
A perfect illustration of why owners should be heavily fined if they don’t keep them stored securely as well. 

Apologies for the hijack. 

And Vernon, Good to hear that you controlled the situation and walked away relatively unscathed. 

 
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Mrleft8

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That is the best part of the job, getting to take a photo with some kid who ran up to me in a park because she wants to be a police officer.

Now you all know the actual department I work for. "The Village" is a small city that is bordered on all 4 sides by OKC. I chose to work for a smaller department for the community aspect of it. We have about 25 officers and the population of our city is about 10K. Our city also participates in the Oklahoma County Multi-Jurisdictional SWAT team by sending 3 of our officers to training 2 days a month and 2 weeks at the end of the year. I am fortunate enough to have made that team so  I get an incredibly high level of training compared to the average officer. 

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You're a good man, Vernon Green.

 

Mrleft8

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I gotta say, you don't look very intimidating in that picture .....
You may not be noticing the light weight Kevlar BRV, the 3 spare mags just above his left pocket, or the Khukuri knife he has in his waistband at the small of his back.... (You can only see that in the reflection from the vehicle, and if you know what you're looking for.... ;) )

 

Vgree

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Lol, I'm not meant to be intimidating.  Friendly and approachable in that get up

If I want to look intimidating you get this attire and a whole bunch of other guys dressed the same way.

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Vgree

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Nope, I can put on the friendly face and I absolutely love being part of the community! But that community expects me to be the guardian if needed, so I spend many hours of time making sure I can do that if needed.

For reference, the picture in all the gear was taken during a manhunt who killed a deputy in a neighboring county. We took him into custody a few hours later after a long armed standoff.

 

Steam Flyer

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Well that was a shitty day,  I have been away from here for a while but decided to come back and post this, and yes I realize it isn't political but this is where I am active.

I responded to a shoplifting call tonight and knew I would be without backup for a bit because both the other guys on duty were on other calls/traffic stops. I show up as the suspect is leaving the store and see him enter a vehicle. I blocked him into a parking spot and he couldn't pull forward due to a concrete pole in front of his car. As I approached I saw him reaching towards the center console, I instructed him to put both his hands out the window and he only showed me his left hand. I was able to control it and ordered him out of the car, he was reaching towards the back of his waistband as he was seated in the driver's seat. We had a 45 second physical altercation as i attempted to keep him from bringing his hand out from behind him. I was eventually able to open the door of the car and pulled him out.

When we hit the ground he kept reaching for his waistband and I felt a hard object in his waistband. I was able to control his hands and got him handcuffed, I then began a search of him and found a loaded handgun in his waistband. About that time a 2nd officer arrived on the scene and they controlled the passenger of the vehicle. 

Anyways, that is it, just had to vent! I am all banged up and kinda pissed off, the suspect is in jail and I am alive. But fuck that sucked!


Holy #@$%&@!

Did you tell him to sing a verse of "I fought the law and the law won"?

NOt glad this happened but very glad you are telling us in person VG. Add my voice to the chorus of "well done, sir."

-DSK

 

Ease the sheet.

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Lol, I'm not meant to be intimidating.  Friendly and approachable in that get up

If I want to look intimidating you get this attire and a whole bunch of other guys dressed the same way.

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Different game, different uniform. Either way, stay safe.

You may not be noticing the light weight Kevlar BRV, the 3 spare mags just above his left pocket, or the Khukuri knife he has in his waistband at the small of his back.... (You can only see that in the reflection from the vehicle, and if you know what you're looking for.... ;) )
I notice enough to walk up and have a chat. That picture in riot gear suggests chatting might not be high on my list......

 

Battlecheese

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A perfect illustration of why owners should be heavily fined if they don’t keep them stored securely as well. 

Apologies for the hijack. 

And Vernon, Good to hear that you controlled the situation and walked away relatively unscathed. 
Of course, if the owner had known he was lined up for a heavy fine, the theft of that item wouldn't have been mentioned. And if after this incident they managed by some fluke to chase down a paper record in some dealer's office indicating that he bought it:  "where is this gun you bought 6 months ago?" "I didn't like it, I sold it to a guy at k-mart".

 
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