Someone tried to kill me tonight

[Ed Lada]

Wow, posting an old worn out meme, featuring an old, worn out buzz word.  I guess you showed him!

 

[Mrleft8]

The guy deals with jerks in real life on an almost daily basis, it's no wonder he wants to avoid them on the internet.

 

[the_abandoned_brane]

The guy deals with jerks in real life on an almost daily basis, it's no wonder he wants to avoid them on the internet.

A few bad apples ruin it for everyone. 

 

[A guy in the Chesapeake]

The criminal is going to fight a uniformed police officer over a cellphone or an insulin pump? Hell, maybe he had a soft furry unicorn in his back pocket and just wanted to give it to the nice police officer...

In my opinion people who attempt to kill police officers have no place in our society.

Philly's got a point  - you do too, if we are talking about someone who's rational, and in control of their faculties.  Cops don't have the luxury of making that determination BEFORE deciding how to respond, and have to consider a wide range of possibilities in a split second - and it's precisely this reason that even though I hate cops deplyed as armed revenue generation agents?  I will almost always give them the benefit of the doubt. 

 

[silent bob]

Capital punishment is not the answer.  Rather ironic that many think the best way to stop killing is to kill people.  Doesn't seem to be terribly effective either.  It seems the so called Christians, or the followers of Christ prefer the Old Testament when it comes to punishing wrong doing, the old eye for an eye shit.  As a matter of fact, most Christians seem to me to believe more in the Old Testament hard line attitudes on homosexuality, adultery, punishment, etc.  They chose to ignore the teachings of the namesake of their cult, non violence, forgiveness, turn the other cheek, etc.  They should call themselves Abrahamists or something, not Christians.  Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

By the way, as much as I appreciate good LEOs like Vernon, I don't think any group should be singled out for special treatment in the eyes of the law.  I disagree entirely with the idea that killing a LEO is any worse than killing any other human being.  They know the risk when they sign up for the job. 

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/10/03/palm-springs-police-ambush-timeline-terrible-day/674586001/

Now, what good will it do keeping this asshat in jail for 60 years, like Charles Manson?  If he gets let out, do you want him living near your daughter and her family?  Life Without Parole doesn’t exist in California!  This shitbag should have still been behind bars when this occurred!  What do you want to do with those who should never be in public again?  

 

[Blue Crab]

And "looser" joins the SA lexicon. Thanks AB. Looser.

If you have any sense left you might want to pay attention to Ed.

 

[ShortForBob]

Well this is spiraled out of control, see you guys later.

And "looser" joins the SA lexicon. Thanks AB. Looser.

If you have any sense left you might want to pay attention to Ed.

 or possibly V Green.

 

[Ed Lada]

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2017/10/03/palm-springs-police-ambush-timeline-terrible-day/674586001/

Now, what good will it do keeping this asshat in jail for 60 years, like Charles Manson?  If he gets let out, do you want him living near your daughter and her family?  Life Without Parole doesn’t exist in California!  This shitbag should have still been behind bars when this occurred!  What do you want to do with those who should never be in public again?  

They need to be in jail as long  as they are sentenced for.  They arrive at these sentences based on a number of factors.  I presume they know something about it, they've been doing it for a long time.  Same thing with the parole board.  If they think the prisoner is rehabilitated enough for parole, then so be it.  Killing them is just wrong on many levels in my opinion.

 

[phillysailor]

Yes, because a shit bag criminal in the middle of an altercation with a cop usually reaches for a cell phone or an insulin pump while he's being told emphatically not to reach in his waistband....

JFC!  The ONLY reason I'm glad VG didn't shoot this shit bag is I wouldn't want him to have to deal with the hassle and the inevitable moral ramifications that he would likely carry with him for the rest of his life regardless of how "good a shoot" it might have been.  But I honestly have to say I wish the shitbag had pulled the gun out and some other OKL officer with a body cam had put two in his chest and dropped the shitbag DTS. 

Sorry, but the world would have been a better place today without said shitbag in it.  Just saying.

Your judgment of this guy's role in society may be 100% correct, but at the time, Ofc Green didn't have the benefit of knowing the item was a gun. He followed his training and procedures. People involved in fights with cops aren't necessarily rational or making good, reliable decisions. 

Your opinions of the value of this "shitbag" to society are irrelevant, but I'm sure you feel better about yourself and your arguments for having spewed them. Thanks for sharing!

But you are completely correct that the hassle (administrative and legal) and the personal ramifications of being the "winner" of a lethal encounter suck. Best to avoid, when able.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Who cares?

There's over 7 billion people in the world - why should we make allowances for dangerous assholes just because they might become more civilized in a few decades?

Because

we do NOT want our law enforcement officers to become executioners of suspected criminals.

And because

Capital punishment is not the answer.

And probably a few more reasons that V might share if he were not frustrated with us. Like the fact that it's really no fun shooting someone, even if they need shooting.

 

[austin1972]

Can't we just be glad Mr. Green is OK? His choices couldn't have been horrible. Maybe different than what you or I would do but maybe that's why he wears a badge and we do not.

 

[SloopJonB]

And "looser" joins the SA lexicon. Thanks AB. Looser.

You just picked up on that?

Have you and your elk heard about Eva Dent yet?

 

[Ed Lada]

You just picked up on that?

Have you and your elk heard about Eva Dent yet?

Shouldn't it be "Have you and your elk herd about Eva Dent yet?"

 

[ShortForBob]

Fuck off.  I never said that.  I said that our legal system was originally based on Judeo-Christian values and as such that history should at least be acknowledged.  I never once said it is currently driven by that.  Did I mention to fuck off??

isn't it?

 

[Mrleft8]

Can't we just be glad Mr. Green is OK? His choices couldn't have been horrible. Maybe different than what you or I would do but maybe that's why he wears a badge and we do not.

I think that's Corporal Green... And I'm very glad that he's OK (In OKC), and I'm very grateful to him for doing a job that most people would not.

Thank you again, Vernon.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Jeff can be forgiven for not referencing it himself, giving his belief that our legal system is primarily driven by Judeo-Christian values </irony font>

Fuck off.  I never said that.  I said that our legal system was originally based on Judeo-Christian values and as such that history should at least be acknowledged.  I never once said it is currently driven by that.  Did I mention to fuck off??

Really?

So, our legal system -should- have bible verses and quotes from Jesus (in English, presumably?) because it originated in Judeo-Christian values; but our legal system and our culture should absolutely reject the actual Christian value of seeking redemption and forgiveness?

I can see why you'd prefer that I fuck off. But hey, I'm not mean about it, you can always seek redemption

-DSK

 

[the_abandoned_brane]

DUDE!  Looser has been in the SA lexicon for years now.  Jeez, are you new here?

Sometimes, you gotta let the old people think they're still relevant. Otherwise It breaks their spirit, and they become incontinent.

 

[silent bob]

They need to be in jail as long  as they are sentenced for.  They arrive at these sentences based on a number of factors.  I presume they know something about it, they've been doing it for a long time.  Same thing with the parole board.  If they think the prisoner is rehabilitated enough for parole, then so be it.  Killing them is just wrong on many levels in my opinion.

Jerry doesn’t want to build prisons, he wants all the money for his magic train, so he revamped the California penal system.  Attempted murder gets knocked down to Simple Assault, which is deemed  “Non-Violent”! So, they serve a couple months in the county jail, then get sprung.  Parole violations, they pop them in for a couple of days and spring them loose.  Revolving door!  A serious felony will spend less than half their sentence behind bars, here!  The only backbone he ever showed was towards the Manson Family.  Probably because he lived close to the Tate/LaBianca murders.  It seems like people get in more trouble here for sexual harassment or animal abuse than they do for phisically harming or killing someone!  Jerry even raised the bar for Grand Theft so that less people go to jail for theft.  Most get simple, unsupervised probation.  

You didn’t answer the question; If someone like Manson, or the shitbag that fought V. Green, gets out on Parole, would you want them living near your daughter and her children?

 

[Bent Sailor]

Until then, this whole argument against the 10 Commandments or other bible passages in our courthouses is just standard librul silliness.

Not according to SCOTUS. Frankly, they have just a little more authority than you on the matter. Just sayin'

 

[Steam Flyer]

Reject?  Where did you get that from?  Pulling stuff out of your ass again, I see.

Ah, no. You seem to love this accusation but you've been wrong every time. Did you already forget you said.............................................

...   ...  JFC!  The ONLY reason I'm glad VG didn't shoot this shit bag is I wouldn't want him to have to deal with the hassle and the inevitable moral ramifications that he would likely carry with him for the rest of his life regardless of how "good a shoot" it might have been.  But I honestly have to say I wish the shitbag had pulled the gun out and some other OKL officer with a body cam had put two in his chest and dropped the shitbag DTS. 

Sorry, but the world would have been a better place today without said shitbag in it.  Just saying.

Chockablock with forgiveness and hopes for redemption, oh yes.

-DSK