Somewhat fast boats with standing headroom


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Thats a nice option, ill look into that, but are you sure it has standing headroom?

I am 6' 1" and I had no problem in the main cabin. Fast little fucker too.  

And the 60 yr old owner who took me out for the day insisted on single handing it the entire time, setting and dumping the kite with ease. It was amazing how much less the loads are than the 40'er version. I did get to play, but he could sail it solo no probs.  

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Black Jack

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What does the OP/forum consider a somewhat fast boat? 

PHRF 75, 90, 115, 120, 150?

In yesterdays YRA double handed race with 86 boats - the difference between the fast(er) and the somewhat fast was not much as one would imagine.

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Black Jack

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Hiya Pironiero,

Here ya go, this is the 30. The gent standing in the companionway is a tad taller than me (I'm 6'1").


At sunset and morning, these Ozzie Pogos will run out onto the course which causes prudent or risk adverse skippers to slow down during those low light conditions.

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its thinness kind of reminds me of swede 55 and macgregor mushed together

also photos of this boat do not do its justice, its quite beautiful on video
In Sweden they were sold as a Runn Racer 912 I think they were built in Keil Germany. I like the way they look but I might be biased since I own one.  As a ULDB they are very spartan inside.


We've owned a Beneteau First 36.7 for about 10 years and absolutely love it. The cabin is very nice, comparable to any boat in its size range. They make smaller versions such as the 31.7, 33.7 they are all very similar to the 36.7 It's an easy boat to sail, single handed or short handed. But it also does great racing in OD, as long as your crew doesn't mind bumping into each other every once and a while. I'm 6' and my father is 6,3' and we both have plenty of headroom to spare. It goes upwind like a witch and does pretty well downwind in a breese. Our top speed recorded is 16.5 knots. Not bad for a boat that can comfortably cruise 5 people. They have a good resale value, and a big class of OD boats actively sailing. You can pick one up in the 70-80k range, much less than comparable boats. They're a newer boat too, and don't have wet balsa cores to worry about. In fact they're pretty low maintenance boats aside from the occasional teak cleaning. If you're racing PHERF throw an A-sym on and you're good to go. The cockpit has removable benches for racing, the salon table comes out leaving a nice brace for sails. The boat responds to small tweaks and changes in the sail trim. It'll respond to cranking some backstay on, and pulling the jib cars back. But you can also just set it and forget it for cruising and it does just fine. We average around 7.5-8 knots in a 10-15 knot breese. But on a reach in 20 knots we easily hit 9-10 knots with a 150 headsail. The wheel is too small, but boats built after 2005 (most of them) have a "triangle" pedestal with the wheel sunk down into the deck, pretty much eliminating the problem. They're not perfect but likely one of the better boats out there for the price, in the 30-40 foot size range. DM me if you have any questions about the boat, I'm happy to chat. 

- Will 




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