What's next for us? Maybe a formal visit by ETs.
Southern Ocean Heating - re: "Irreversible" on SA headline
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EYESAILOR
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Im realizing that you are a bit of a fruit cake.....or a few bulbs short of a full chandelier.
Oh Dear!
I rest my case. Another victim of the noise machine who has no critical thinking skills.
You regurgitate what your politicians and face book friends tell you, or what you Hear on right wing media and radio.
Republicans Spin NIH Letter About Coronavirus Gain-of-Function Research - FactCheck.org
Republicans say a letter from a National Institutes of Health official is an admission that the agency funded so-called gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in China, with some falsely linking the work to the pandemic coronavirus. But the research, which the NIH maintains is not...
www.factcheck.org
If only there were ways to discern the truth.
Let me guess. The next avenue is that the fact checkers lie and you can't trust them either.
Been down this road, and so have you, probably with a different sock puppet.
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Southern Ocean in-situ temperature trends over 25 years emerge from interannual variability - Nature Communications
The Southern Ocean takes up the most heat and carbon, yet because of its remote and harsh location, it remains relatively sparsely measured. Here the authors use a 25 year temperature series which shows a clear, long term trend in subsurface warming that emerges from interannual variability.
www.nature.com
Can't we all just get along? 
Opinions are like a-- holes, everyone has oneI rest my case. Another victim of the noise machine who has no critical thinking skills.
You regurgitate what your politicians and face book friends tell you, or what you Hear on right wing media and radio.
Republicans Spin NIH Letter About Coronavirus Gain-of-Function Research - FactCheck.org
Republicans say a letter from a National Institutes of Health official is an admission that the agency funded so-called gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in China, with some falsely linking the work to the pandemic coronavirus. But the research, which the NIH maintains is not...
If only there were ways to discern the truth.
Let me guess. The next avenue is that the fact checkers lie and you can't trust them either.
Been down this road, and so have you, probably with a different sock puppet.
floater
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some are just stupider than others.
EYESAILOR
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I can get along with you.Can't we all just get along? 
I have plenty of loopy friends and I loved my grandmother until the day she died even though she did not know who I was and didnt have the foggiest idea of what was going on.
No. No, they aren't. You see some opinions are well researched, and backed by a lifetime of study. Others are 'that feels like what I think should be right, so I'm choosing it out of convenience". Still others are "this lie will get me the most votes. It's just the flu. It'll be gone by summer."
I guess in some might believe those might all have equal value. But they don't.
I'll guess you don't think this weaponized Covid-19 virus escaped from the Wuhan lab. I'll also guess you think the virus came out of a wet market in Wuhan. Would I be right in assuming this?
I thought I replied to your question about Do you have any kids? Did you get my reply to that? Just wondering.
dogwatch
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Whataboutery.
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You would not get along with me if i shit on your doorstep. I don't get along with people spreading shit in my atmosphere. And spreading shit in my atmosphere is what you do by spreading lies made up to make us blind about how our use of fossil fuels impacts climate.Can't we all just get along? 
Gene splicing cannot be done without leaving telltale signs that any geneticist can find with a simple PCR machine. The original virus and the varients have no signs of such lab tampering. You might want to loosen your tin foil hat a bit.
EYESAILOR
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That's okay. My grandmother had dementia as well, (and some pretty crazy ideas at the end).
Don't worry about it.
Enjoy your time with your kids while you can still remember their names and live life to the full.
Experts say it is more likely that the virus came from a wet market. But a number of them would like a deeper investigation. The total opacity of China and lack of cooperation in any of the investigations make it unlikely we will ever know the truth with 100% certainty.
Arguing about where it came from is pointless. It is impossible to form a conclusion on this topic. I just listen to the experts.
Science | AAAS
www.science.org
The Lab-Leak Hypothesis Made It Harder for Scientists to Seek the Truth
Virus origin stories have always been prone to conspiracy theories. COVID disinformation has threatened research—and lives
www.scientificamerican.com
Every opinion says it's far more likely that it DID come from a web market, but we can't be certain.
Why does the origin even matter any more?
The reason I asked was I couldn't see my reply to you (which was friendly by the way), so I guess it did not get sent. Oh well.
I see why this site is called Sailing Anarchy now.
Steam Flyer
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100% certainty is almost impossible to reach. However it is possible to say what circumstances are very unlikely, or SO unlikely that you would have a better chance of having a green monkey playing a banjo fly out of your butt; and events which are somewhat unlikely but possible witin the range of knowns; and events which are MORE likely given the range of knowns.
It is very very unlikely that the CoVid-19/SARS2 virus is man-made. Current capability in genetic engineering is known and the methods are relatively easily detectable (given the right equipment and personnel, which hundreds of universities around the world have).
However the RWNJs will never give up their foolish quest to repeat the accusation often enough to make it true. Facts don't matter. The accusation matters to them, because they can hang it around the neck of people they hate-hate-HATE (like Dr. Fauci).
Where did it come from? More difficult to determine, especially since we have a number of possible samples from well before the Wuhan outbreak. The Wuhan outbreak has been timelined to mid-November 2019, with it spreading explosively from the area centered around the "wet market" in early December.
But-
Genetic Study Shows COVID-19 Was in France Weeks Before The First Case Was Reported
China reported its first cases of the new coronavirus in December.
www.sciencealert.com
And-
Coronavirus Was In U.S. Weeks Earlier Than Previously Known, Study Says
The discovery, uncovered after analyzing blood donations from nine states, strengthens evidence that the coronavirus was quietly spreading around the world before health officials were aware.
www.npr.org
There are other reports in Europe and the US from autumn of 2019 where blood samples show anitbodies... meaning exposure to the virus. Looking in the mirror (so to speak) makes it very difficult to reconstruct the genetics of the CoVid19/SARS2 virus but it is easily possible (as in, this has been well studied numerous times in the past) that a virus common in animals can mutate and "jump" to humans, but the mutations may not be consistent and stable enough to produce a big outbreak until some of that mutation combines with a further mutation, at which point the virus is not contagious to the animal host any more but -IS- contagious... and stable... in humans.
That is oddly and disturbingly specific, and I'm concerned that you may want to see a proctologist. And how did a monkey learn to play the banjo? What's the motivation?
