southern ocean mayhem, mayhem mayhem!!!

[andwhatsyourpoint]

...the seasheperds are down there stirring shit to get people talking and get the media excited, thus putting pressure on the australian government to intervene.

That may be what SS's press release says, but the only pressure I see is on that media whore Paul Watson to make good TV. It was painfully obvious after a couple of episodes into season one of Whale Whores that SS's crew are nothing but a bunch of impotent douchebags that lack even basic seamanship skills.
No doubt the Japanese are a bunch of douchebags as well, but don't go trying to pass off the SS assclowns as being any better.

look not knowing them personally, i can't comment on them being impotent douchebags but

I don't know if you've noticed but people are talking about it and the media is getting excited about it, there also seems to be increasing pressure on the australian government to intervene. Are you saying that this is all a by-product of them trying to make a third rate cable documentary???

Stand back everyone let the genius through.

Anyone with a brain that's seen 15 minutes of Whale Whores or read anything objective about SS knows they're impotent douches. I didn't realize that you had to know someone personally to ascertain whether or not they're a douche. I guess by that logic you're still trying to figure out how to label Hitler. Heck, I don't even know you and I'm pretty sure you're a douche.
Yes, I'm saying the SS crews increased aggressive piloting of their vessels is a direct result of Paul Watson and company trying to not get canceled and keep the big donations coming in from people like Bob Barker.

How many seasons did you think Animal Planet was going to buy of SS being impotent douches that throw stinky butter and risk lives in small craft while the Japanese kill whales right in front of them.

Not many, genius!

 

[Superpickle]

They are all vegan liberal Masterbaters.. with a weak grip.. to weak to bring an Orgasm.. sooo they run out to sea and cause trouble to have a reason NOT to KILL themselves..

Pathetic folks at best..

:-(

And, im sure its easyer than getting a Frikkin JOB and being a Productive member of Sociatie.. <_<

 

[oneguyfromdetroit]

New video of another incident a couple hours later. Anyone think the Japanese are at fault in this one?

Nope.

Perhaps the SS group will continue their aggression, and as a result of their own actions, end up as 'chum' for the whales to eat.

 

[Old Man On The Bow]

Any hillbilly that bothered to catch a load of them would be eating them.

Hey BM you are starting to hit close to home!!!

Hope all is well.

Regards

 

[LB 15]

well it's pretty obvious you haven't even read the col regs, my guess is you googled it came up with a summary and then scanned through for something that sounded remotely similar with what you figured to be true and wrote it above
as for the personal attacks, dude i don't even know you and you don't know me either, so i can only assume you're getting some gratification out of having a swipe at me. I'm very flattered, perhaps a little curious, but I'm not really into that.

Maybe its time to turn the computer off and go look for a girlfriend buddy.

Oh and by the way i have no further intentions of communicating with you, until you have something intelligent to contribute. Could be a while.

You are flattered by me flaming your bullshit? Wow. And you say I need to get out more.

I also have no intentions of communicating with you. Only lampooning your stupid, ill-informed comments.

Want be long.

Oh and if want to learn the colregs drop me a pm old mate. I teach and examine that subject for a living.

Now back to your boat ramp.

Those hillbillies might be lurking.

 

[Rain Man]

Cmon folks, let not discuss niceties like Colregs and so on here. They are irrelevant to this situation. The SSS will stop at nothing short of shooting guns at the Japanese and if that arrow evidence is real, maybe not even stop there. The Japanese are the same - had there been a crewmember of the Ady Gil having a pee on or in the bow during that collision, they'd be dead now whoever you might think caused the collision in the first place.

Watson knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that the more outrageous the action taken by SSS, the more publicity this issue gets. He couldn't pay for global coverage for an ad about the whaling issue. This way, he gets the issue brought to the world's attention for free.

He'll keep doing this, taking calculated risks to keep the publicity happening hoping that no-one gets killed. He knows that no-one in the general public really cares about bumping ships - most people probably think it is somewhat entertaining. I hope he never gets it wrong. Same with the Japanese captains.

This isn't about who didn't follow the right of way rules. Not at all.

dash

 

[Evo]

This isn't about who didn't follow the right of way rules. Not at all.
dash

yes it is...the rest of your conversation belongs in anti-whaling anarchy where such points will no doubt be well received

 

[Rain Man]

This isn't about who didn't follow the right of way rules. Not at all.
dash

yes it is...the rest of your conversation belongs in anti-whaling anarchy where such points will no doubt be well received

That's hilarious. By your logic, we shouldn't worry about Lee Harvey Oswald carrying a gun into the library, we should just worry about whether or not his car was illegally parked.

I'm just saying...

dash

 

[Evo]

This isn't about who didn't follow the right of way rules. Not at all.
dash

yes it is...the rest of your conversation belongs in anti-whaling anarchy where such points will no doubt be well received

That's hilarious. By your logic, we shouldn't worry about Lee Harvey Oswald carrying a gun into the library, we should just worry about whether or not his car was illegally parked.

I'm just saying...

dash

is there a conspiracy theory anarchy as well as an anti-whaling anarchy? who knew

anyway...take all semantic arguments there. Leave the boating part here. just sayin

 

[OceanBien]

video

By the bearing drift of the Bob Barker viewed in the beginning of the video, I see that there was some starboard rudder on the Bob Barker to converge with the Yushin Maru 3.

Plus the fact that the Yushing Maru 3 was to starboard of the Bob Barker means that the Bob Barker was violating COLREGS rule 15 & 16 and the Yushin Maru 3 was delayed but appropriate to steer to avoid an even worse collision for action on rule 17.

 

Seems if there was any calculated strategy on the Bob Barker that they would position themselves to starboard of their "hunted" vessels in order to appear in the "right" on these encounters.

 

My personal opinion is that the Japanese are not doing research but are harvesting for the Japanese seafood market. I don't think anyone is fooled by their supposition that they are whaling for "research".

 

[Billy Bob]

Don't need a vidio to see that SS is not the right of way vessel in this incedent. Blubberboy 15 your right about the rules of the road but that's as far as I will agree with you. Your hatred of SS is well enough documented on these pages. No evidence that you have produced so far will prevent me from supporting a group that is willing to stand in the way of enviromental terrorist. By you sitting on your ass and doing nothing to stop either SS or the whalers your part of the problem as well as many others here. Politicians have not made a difference in this matter and money still rules the high seas.

I think the SS are not going far enough in my opinion, but thats just me. I will continue to support them as long as they keep the enviromental terrorists in the world spot light.

 

[barleymalt]

Don't need a vidio to see that SS is not the right of way vessel in this incedent. Blubberboy 15 your right about the rules of the road but that's as far as I will agree with you. Your hatred of SS is well enough documented on these pages. No evidence that you have produced so far will prevent me from supporting a group that is willing to stand in the way of enviromental terrorist. By you sitting on your ass and doing nothing to stop either SS or the whalers your part of the problem as well as many others here. Politicians have not made a difference in this matter and money still rules the high seas. I think the SS are not going far enough in my opinion, but thats just me. I will continue to support them as long as they keep the enviromental terrorists in the world spot light.

So how far are you willing to go, do you condone physical violence and murder?.

 

[JimC]

It rather amazes me that anyone can quote colregs in a situation where quite clearly neither party has the slightest interest in them. Get real guys. You might as well say that Nelson broke colregs at the battle of Trafalgar...

 

[LB 15]

It rather amazes me that anyone can quote colregs in a situation where quite clearly neither party has the slightest interest in them. Get real guys. You might as well say that Nelson broke colregs at the battle of Trafalgar...

Jimbo the IMO had yet to be formed at the time of Trafalgar. And Nelson was at war. Cap'n Tofu burgers isn't at war with the Japanese. He is just a criminal scumbag vigilante trying to hurt people to feed his enormous ego. Hopefully he and his poor deranged acolytes will be charged and jailed this time. I would like to see how the tree huggers like being hugged themselves by a 300 pound serial killer.

They will be able to tell how long they have been in there by counting their own rings.

 

[LB 15]

Don't need a vidio to see that SS is not the right of way vessel in this incedent. Blubberboy 15 your right about the rules of the road but that's as far as I will agree with you. Your hatred of SS is well enough documented on these pages. No evidence that you have produced so far will prevent me from supporting a group that is willing to stand in the way of enviromental terrorist. By you sitting on your ass and doing nothing to stop either SS or the whalers your part of the problem as well as many others here. Politicians have not made a difference in this matter and money still rules the high seas. I think the SS are not going far enough in my opinion, but thats just me. I will continue to support them as long as they keep the enviromental terrorists in the world spot light.

Thanks for your input Billy boy. Nice to hear a rational, common sense point of view.

If you feel that strongly about it why don't you pack up all your possum guns and go give'em a hand.

You sound like you will fit right in.

 

[Rain Man]

Don't need a vidio to see that SS is not the right of way vessel in this incedent. Blubberboy 15 your right about the rules of the road but that's as far as I will agree with you. Your hatred of SS is well enough documented on these pages. No evidence that you have produced so far will prevent me from supporting a group that is willing to stand in the way of enviromental terrorist. By you sitting on your ass and doing nothing to stop either SS or the whalers your part of the problem as well as many others here. Politicians have not made a difference in this matter and money still rules the high seas. I think the SS are not going far enough in my opinion, but thats just me. I will continue to support them as long as they keep the enviromental terrorists in the world spot light.

Thanks for your input Billy boy. Nice to hear a rational, common sense point of view.

If you feel that strongly about it why don't you pack up all your possum guns and go give'em a hand.

You sound like you will fit right in.

Hey, Evo, you were right, this thread IS just about who broke the right of way rules.

Those of you who just want to talk about Colregs and ignore the big picture here, need to put one of these on.

dash

 

[Evo]

Don't need a vidio to see that SS is not the right of way vessel in this incedent. Blubberboy 15 your right about the rules of the road but that's as far as I will agree with you. Your hatred of SS is well enough documented on these pages. No evidence that you have produced so far will prevent me from supporting a group that is willing to stand in the way of enviromental terrorist. By you sitting on your ass and doing nothing to stop either SS or the whalers your part of the problem as well as many others here. Politicians have not made a difference in this matter and money still rules the high seas. I think the SS are not going far enough in my opinion, but thats just me. I will continue to support them as long as they keep the enviromental terrorists in the world spot light.

Thanks for your input Billy boy. Nice to hear a rational, common sense point of view.

If you feel that strongly about it why don't you pack up all your possum guns and go give'em a hand.

You sound like you will fit right in.

Hey, Evo, you were right, this thread IS just about who broke the right of way rules.

Those of you who just want to talk about Colregs and ignore the big picture here, need to put one of these on.

dash

nah....there's always two sides to it and what does it have to do with sailing. other than the rules

weren't both these threads the domain of the inane...there is political anarchy if you want to duke out the merits of whaling or not.

I'd like to see even more humpies on our coast than we are already enjoying. I can remember when it was none. The increase in numbers is fantastic IMHO. They scare the shit out of me pretty much every time but it makes ya feel like yer with huey when you see em up close and personal. swimming with them is incredible

so i don't want the japs doing what they are doing. don't like the lies from either side but it doesn't matter because this is a forum for sailing. a good place to respect huey. none of em are doing that so i'm not going to shine a bright light on SS. they're dopes. dangerous and not good with boats

it would be better if the SS supporters were making salient nautical points. so far it's been not so much and it appears there isn't a lot of ocean experience among them

forum police rant over. carry on

 

[A guy in the Chesapeake]

nah....there's always two sides to it and what does it have to do with sailing. other than the rules
weren't both these threads the domain of the inane...there is political anarchy if you want to duke out the merits of whaling or not.

I'd like to see even more humpies on our coast than we are already enjoying. I can remember when it was none. The increase in numbers is fantastic IMHO. They scare the shit out of me pretty much every time but it makes ya feel like yer with huey when you see em up close and personal. swimming with them is incredible

so i don't want the japs doing what they are doing. don't like the lies from either side but it doesn't matter because this is a forum for sailing. a good place to respect huey. none of em are doing that so i'm not going to shine a bright light on SS. they're dopes. dangerous and not good with boats

it would be better if the SS supporters were making salient nautical points. so far it's been not so much and it appears there isn't a lot of ocean experience among them

forum police rant over. carry on

Evo - those are words that all but those at the lunatic fringe should be able to accept.

 

[Regatta Dog]

Watch the videos and listen to Watson. Is he talking "Save the Whales"? No. The douche bag is talking about the incident and slamming the Ausi/Kiwi Navies for not getting involved.

Watch and listen to the fuck-nut. It is not about whales anymore --- it's about him vs. the Japanese, NZ and Australia.

It's about his fucking ego.

BTW - The Dutch are considering legislation that will deflag Sea Shepherd boats.

 

[HamishMacdonald]

had there been a crewmember of the Ady Gil having a pee on or in the bow during that collision, they'd be dead now whoever you might think caused the collision in the first place.

Had there been a crewmember having a piss off the boat at that moment, he's be the current deserving recipient of a Darwin Award...

And my two pence:

The Japs are doing this to stick two fingers up at the 'Western world', who they perceive as trying to dictate morals and so on to their ancient culture. To accept this would mean a loss of face - not cool when it comes to Japan. Whilst I am definitely against whaling (scientists recently claimed dolphins should not be classed as animals, but as 'non human persons' as they are even cleverer than chimps, which are estimated to approximate a three year old child), Watson and SS are only harming their own cause. If they want to do this, they should obey the COLREGS.

For instance, if they had positioned themselves just astern of the mothership, thus blocking its whale ramp, they could have shut down its operations for days. This could be withing COLREGS as long as they, as overtaking boat, kept clear. Any harpoon ship approaching them would have to do so from behind, making them the overtaking boat and giving SS right of way.

Of course, I have serious doubts about the seamanship abilities of SS to achieve this without royally fucking it up.

Long term, it will take behind the scenes negotiation by many of the world's governments, especially those that Japan exports to, and local allies such as South Korea, to convince the Japs to quit whaling and be able to claim they have done it for their own reasons, thus saving face.