Laser1
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Went back to the French article : le safran sous le vent. That leeward yes?
So translation glitch ?
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Spindrift 2 2019 Jules Verne attempt
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So translation glitch ?
jb5
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I also sense a lack of commitment in this project. Seems like they spent X millions on the boat and updates. Success didn't come easily. Now just trying to make something out of it but not really all that keen anymore.
When BP did their all their records with this boat they had the old taller, heavier mast and associated larger sails, no T rudders and probably more other weight that has subsequently been removed.
On the record BP RTW run they at one point looked on for a possible 40, even sub 40, day finish but, as I recall, the North Atlantic didn't play ball and they had to make a pretty full circuit to get to the finish. Even at the finish I recall that they ran down the line toward France before crossing, because BP is of course French, and they had the record easily.
All those modifications Spindrift made which have not delivered when maybe all that was really needed was just to keep trying and hopefully find a extra bit of good weather.
So I'm guessing 'for sale' ads next but I wonder who, if anyone, will ever buy it now. Sad, it is a great boat but now very quickly becoming out dated and of course not 32/23 class compliant. Hopefully Gitana will try for the record next year.
Photo of how I like to remember that boat, taken when they sailed past me in NY Harbor in 09 while on standby for their still standing Atlantic and 24 hour record runs. Wish I had a better camera back then.
Ahstom
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They're lucky to own the boat without any sponsor, some would have slam the door / fire some people for a long time !
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jb5
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Isn't that 32/23 RTW race winter 21/22? BP and Macif launching early 21 around the time when the VG finishes I thought.
Ahstom
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QBF
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Posted this morning
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If it is put for sale, the price will probably end up being quite low (relatively), so I think some people could be interested, maybe even Joyon who is quite used to buying used boats !
(but maybe too big for him, solo quasi impossible, and Francis not that young anymore, but clearly that boat still has some potential)
QBF
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Spindrift 2 is back in La Trinité sur Mer
Did anyone figure out what exactly was wrong with the rudders during the record attempt at high speed?
1) Hydrodynamics of the blade (ventilation, cavitation, etc)
2) steering mechanism failure (structural or just too much friction)
3) Jamming of bearings & ruddershaft (not suitable for vertical forces ?) or some other reason
4) contact of rudder blade and hull under load causing jamming
5) something else, what?
1) Hydrodynamics of the blade (ventilation, cavitation, etc)
2) steering mechanism failure (structural or just too much friction)
3) Jamming of bearings & ruddershaft (not suitable for vertical forces ?) or some other reason
4) contact of rudder blade and hull under load causing jamming
5) something else, what?
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From what I understand, it was 1), that resulted in 2) when trying to recover the boat.
But I don't get very well the explanation of Yan G in the video above linked by QBF.
He is saying the rudder was stalling/ventilating (décrochage in French, meaning "unhoooking"), so like spin out of the fin in Windsurfing, and that the result was the boat broaching (would have thought more the contrary), and they were very near to jibing.
They had to be two at the helm putting very high angle on the rudder (10°) : although I'm clearly not an expert on these high speed craft, would have thought the way to go would be to get the rudder in line so that it gets back in normal hydrodynamics mode before putting an angle to it to change course (probably easier to say than do though ..).
Note : saying they were near jibing is not in the video above, was in a previous message I think.
In the video he is saying : at high speed the ama rudder was acting reverse of what it should be, really don't understand that one ...
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terrafirma
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It was discussed many times before that this boat, it's team and management are prone to failure. For whatever reason. They didn't get very far as per usual. Some might say it's been bad luck for them for a long time, others might say you make your own luck? Call it as you wish.
