I believe the challenge you will have with bringing the cleat to the bottom of the mast is that it will be difficult to maintain luff tension on the main. The UFO seems pretty sensitive to how far the top of the main is from the top of the mast, and you want to be able to set it and be sure it stays there. The longer the distance between the sail and the cleat, the more stretch you will have in the halyard. You will also double the compression force on the mast, so you will have a lot more bend it in than the sail produces on its own. I'm not sure if that will cause a problem or not, but it will certainly change the shape of the sail.Has anyone moved the cleat (or was it subsequently moved) for the halyard? To me, that's the hardest part of raising / lowering the sail on the water; i.e. getting far enough to get a decent angle on the jam cleat. I was thinking of just putting a cleat lower on the mast or on the deck.
It's relatively easy to take the rig down - fully assembled, boom and all, with mainsheet in place etc, lay it on the deck and dolly around for a short distance. Further disassembly starts getting a bit trickier. Can still be done quickly by a motivated sailor but I'd try to avoid it.Thanks for all the input above! By regulation, you can't have a raised sail as you pass under the bridge. I get that raising the sail while afloat would be a PITA. Moving on to plan B, I have another location close to home where I can dolly the boat to a rocky beach. It will just require taking the mast down between the storage and launching site to get under some trees. Is it feasible to lift off the top section and leave the lower pieces in place? Top and middle?
@Ledge, welcome to the team! My background is very similar: sailing Lasers and wanting a boat that is more modern. I launch my boat at a beach that requires me to sail or paddle (not foil) underneath a bridge. The UFO will fit safely under a 19 foot bridge clearance. The boat is easy to paddle but there's not much space to store a paddle on the boat. I think the community knowledge on paddling is to paddle like a surfboard by putting your chest out on one of the bows and arm paddling. I have found that I can steer the boat with one of my feet on the tiller. I hope that helps and keep asking questions and watching videos to climb the learning curve. We're all here to help each other!Hello,
I just placed an order for a UFO for delivery in late June. I'll be leaning heavily on the expertise here as I have never foiled. I am a laser sailor looking for a new thrill. Here are a few questions to start. Thanks in advance for your support.
1. I am on the North Shore of Boston, any of you in my neighborhood?
2. I am figuring out my best options for storing and launching. I have access to a dock but it is on the inside of a railroad bridge about 50 yards away. This would be a great place to store it because I could leave it fully rigged. The bridge master won't let me sail under the bridge, but I can paddle under with the sail lowered. Has anyone tried paddling their UFO with a SUP paddle? Is it possible to raise and lower the sail while on the water?
Thanks Derek! Will do. Figuring out the logistics first. Based on what Martin 'hoff said, I think I can keep my mast assembled and just take it down for transport. Should be less rigging time than the laser.@Ledge, welcome to the team! My background is very similar: sailing Lasers and wanting a boat that is more modern. I launch my boat at a beach that requires me to sail or paddle (not foil) underneath a bridge. The UFO will fit safely under a 19 foot bridge clearance. The boat is easy to paddle but there's not much space to store a paddle on the boat. I think the community knowledge on paddling is to paddle like a surfboard by putting your chest out on one of the bows and arm paddling. I have found that I can steer the boat with one of my feet on the tiller. I hope that helps and keep asking questions and watching videos to climb the learning curve. We're all here to help each other!
I've done it a good number of times, but I'm also known for acrobatics. The soft shackle on the outhaul is massively difficult from that angle. A snap-shackle would help a lot. Ledge, another solid option is the rig it, tip it over on its side and tow it under from the mast tip. Did this several times in Annapolis to get under the spa-creek bridge. Rig up at the pubic access ramp down the creek, launch and motor down the creek alongside and capsize into the rib as you pass under the bridge.Its nearly impossible to raise the sail on the boat.
I've also done it a few times. I've towed the UFO behind a nice proper yacht for about a week, sailing it here and there.
I will be there with you guys in spirit! Have a great weekend and take some pictures. I'm looking forward to lighter travel restrictions and more fun later in 2021 or 2022.I've also done it a few times. I've towed the UFO behind a nice proper yacht for about a week, sailing it here and there.
The UFO was tied – so, not drifting. For the hoist, I'd basically be swimming in the water port-aft of the UFO, as if was trapezing on a cat. Same to uncleat the halyard – swimming/"trapezing", but port-bow.
For the outhaul soft shackle, I've solved it with a very cheap trick. With a trucker's hitch and figure-eights' I made a low-brow soft shackle that is very "long" but has several stopper knots (but none of them at the very end of the tail). The knot that is the closest to the trucker's hitch is the one that I end up using. As it has a very long tail, it's easy to get the tail through the loop, and start pulling through, get one stopper knot through, then the other...
Because it's "long", and it doesn't have a knot at the very end, you don't need to be too far aft (or fiddle for too long) to get it "tied". Simplifies things significantly, even on land.
This very long tail wants to tangle everywhere, the mainsheet block in particular. So tie it off at the metal bridge.
We have a perfect weather window for our little Miami get together. Light-ish on Friday, perfect 12-14kt Sat-Sunday. Barry is already in town, Kelly and Shelley arriving tomorrow morning/midday. @Dave Clark - we'll miss having you and Kirk!
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While sizes Medium and Large are all tapped out from our UFO t-shirt supply, I think we have a couple child's small ones still in the bottom of the barrel. The fact that I didn't think to put one on the dog until this instant is tearing me apart.
It’s a J/34c. Harumph.Quick report
We just wrapped up. Things didn't go to exactly to plan, but it was a grand time. Barry, Kelly and Shelly are on their way home. I'm home unpacking, getting sand off things...
A couple of hours ago, when we here mostly done with de-rigging the out of town UFOs I sat down for a moment realized – here we are, old friends, new friends and I, achy and tired from having sailed 3 days, tearing down our boats yet wishing we could have done one more flight, one more tack, one more hour in the sweet breeze. This is the best time – by far! – I've had in this strange long year.
We recruited a few locals for support. On a J-28 and a new UFO owner (his new craft is in shipment) on a small powerboat. So we had great support on the water.