http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/Viva-27-2566822/Anacortes/WA/United-States#.WUOtX-srLRYIf you find a Viva 27 and don't buy it, let me know. I had forgotten those but they addressed a few of the major things with the Stiletto and it was a HOT boat for its time. Not many made but one would be a keeper.
$36500 seemed cheap, considering they are not that old and $120k new, the 14ft beam caused the massive depreciation, and the 16ft beam boats are much more manageable.I saw one Reynolds 33 that was in my price range that sold a while back. Haven't seen anything else I'd call "cheap".
Easy problems to fix. I had a Stiletto 27 for 8 year and wrote a book about some of our long cruises (local guide book, but with lots of Stiletto tips--see "Circumnavigating the Delmarva..." below).I owned a Stiletto 27 and I sailed on a Warrior many times in south Texas.
I did not like the Stiletto 27's dagger board setup. Board was always hard to raise and lower. Don't know why.
The boat had terrible weather helm in a breeze. Never could determine why.
I would recommend inshore or near-shore sailing. I bought a Stiletto 23 and liked it much better.
The Warrior is a much more robust design - sailed well, but it did seem much heavier than the Stiletto 27.
I think the brothers in Florida may still be refurbishing older Stilettos - worth a call anyway.
Never seen a Viva.
S27 may work fine for you - good luck, please send pics!
One thing that concerns me about the Stiletto is the "fighter jet" hatches. Seems a bit risky and might not secure enough to prevent flooding the hulls in the event of a capsize. I've seen several photos on the net of a capsized Stiletto, the hulls at least partially filled with water and the hatches open or missing. Has anyone seen any way to improve these hatches?Viva is a much faster boat, well designed and engineered. A vary large sail plan, needs experienced crew in heavy winds. It folds so not too difficult to trailer once you get the hang of it. Heavier than the Stiletto, so not as easy to pull up on a beach but can handle big seas better than the light weight full bowed Stiletto.
Warrior has to be taken apart to trailer, a heavy boat so slower than the Stiletto. Goes to weather better than the Stiletto because of the in-hull dagger boards and finer hull shape.
Stiletto is very light, great boat to pull the bows up on the beach. Put a tent on the trampoline and you have a great cruiser. Fast on a reach or downwind (it planes in heavy air).You get used to the centerline dagger board, the Stiletto goes to weather just fine as long as you don't pinch. Except for real light air, it is a dog in light air upwind. The hard deck is a plus. Because of its light weight the Stiletto feels like a big beach cat.
Not many Viva's or Warriors around.
I knew the Dr, and I know who saved his Viva after he passed. And now I know who Max is. But I'm still trying to work out who Rasputin is...someone I knew from mid 80 s new Orleans beach cat racing/sailboats south/Colin clark scene...I used to own the Suares VIVA and I suspect Rasputin22 knows the boat. I sold her to Calif and I believe she is now known as AVALON DARLIN. The V is a powerful scary machine. That said, this boat, the Granger modified Stiletto, is even more powerful and scary, and if I had the dosh I'd buy in a NY second:
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