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James "Grumpy" Bond
This is pretty rich coming from you
Supreme Court does not allow EPA to regulate CO2
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Not for nothing
Super Anarchist
oh sorry I forgot about the DOG thing,
Kinda reminds of a story, A guy lives by a creek, as the water gets higher the man ask God what to do, A big army truck drives by and tells the man to get in, his reply" God will save me", the man goes in the flooded house and a boat comes by, he doesn't get in, then he's on the roof and a helicopter flies by and drops a rope, the man waves it off, The man final washes away and drowns, So he at the pearly gates and ask God why he didn't save him, God looks at him bewiled and says to the man" I did, I sent trucks, boats and even a helicopter and you turned them away, what more could I've done?"
So here we are, on a dying planet/society and God, has given us the ways to continue Human life and we're waving him off
Bus Driver
Bacon Quality Control Specialist
Fuck off, Grumpy. I respond to what is written. Mikey creates strawmen, with which to argue.
mikewof
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No worries. If you ever want to learn about the atmosphere as something other than yet another political gripe, maybe you can revisit Kent Island's thread with a different perspective.
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James Watt?
Of course, his famous quote was that trees cause air pollution. And at the time, he was widely ridiculed. But of course, he was exactly right, some trees DO cause air pollution, especially the monocropped softwood forests that belch VOCs the way herds of cows fart methane. And he apparently knew back in the late 1970s that the VOCs from these monocropped pine forests lead to tropospheric ozone pollution.
And yes, ten years later, the EPA had to admit that Watt was right all along; https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/05/12/EPA-admits-trees-cause-air-pollution/4866610948800/
But Watt was a Republican, a Christian and a Westerner, so he was an easy target. And as noted from Billy and Bus Driver in this thread, us lefties are more than happy to discard science if we can bash our enemies over the head with the misinformation and then stab them in the gut with the disinformation.
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Bus Driver
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Just another example of you attempting, and failing, to assign to me a position.
Or, maybe you don't give a shit about accuracy and just resort to making up shit.
Either way, you are dead-nuts wrong. Again.
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Unbunch your panties, Sally Mae, I was referring to what happened with James Watt.
Bus Driver
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And, exactly when did I say anything about Watt?
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You didn't write anything about James Watt. For all I know you and Watt were out doing fat rails of coke off the ass of strippers dressed in nuns habits.
I made note that you and @billy backstay happily shit all over the thread in disagreeing with @Surfer7 because you didn't like what he wrote. But what he wrote was correct. With the Russian embargo and shifting natural gas contracts, Germany IS countering its original attempts to end coal and they absolutely COULD scrub the CO2 from their emissions and largely chose not to do it. And CO2 absolutely IS "life-giving" and nobody debates CO2's role in the carbon cycle that allows us all to live another day and argue this bullshit and do fat rails of coke off the cleavage of nuns dressed in strippers' outfits.
But you and Billy decided the declare him a "right wing nut job" since his language apparently varied slightly from what you and your "left wing nut jobs" approved for official consumption. You and Billy tried to shut him down due to political expediency, and in doing so, you gave no benefit to how we can actually solve this problem so that our atmosphere doesn't choke in CO2 and methane.
The left wing politicians do not have the capacity to solve this problem. If they had access to a global authoritarian state, they would not have the capacity to solve this problem.
The world is now experiencing population inversion all over the place, and even the Developing Nations have found a way to largely launch themselves in to Second Nation status is the former Second Nation of China, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brazil move deftly and quickly into Industrial National economies. We have a coming economic crunch. And regardless what Greta Thunberg says as she munches on her bananas flown in from Jamaica and relaxes on her transcontinental flight that spews chlorine through the stratosphere, people do not need to starve to death, or freeze to death, or die from bad sanitation and unsanitized water.
For this to happen, for us to not have to collectively bury 6 million children every fucking year from diseases a whole lot simpler than fucking COVID, like air pollution, and malaria, cholera and diarrhea, we need a functional global power economy. The reason those coal plants don't use CO2 scrubbers is because the entropic cost of removing a molecule as stable as CO2 from a combustion stream is insanely expensive.
The only real option is move to a global low-entropy economy so that our stratosphere, troposphere, lithosphere and hydrosphere can recover. And this CANNOT happen without both the lefties and the righties working together to make this happen. What Surfer7 wrote is exactly correct and it has to be considered as part of the move to low-entropy. What he wrote may rub you the wrong way, but in the immortal words of @BeSafe, "If you think God is a merciless fuck, wait till you meet physics."
There's some egregious bullshit coming out of the SC. Alito seems to feel that he is empowered to make laws, not interpret them. He's another one who needs to go.
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Reacting to a blunt-talking concurring opinion submitted by Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh taking on the ruling authored by colleague Sam Alito, Loyola Law School Professor Jessica Levinson suggested in a new column for MSNBC there is the makings of a schism developing within the conservative majority court.
At issue was the court severely limiting the ability of the government to enforce the Clean Water Act, with Kavanaugh agreeing with the ultimate decision, but siding with the liberal wing in pointing out that the court is making law instead of interpreting it.
According to Levinson, the court's ruling was an egregious assertion of the court's authority and "the court’s ruling isn’t merely practically pernicious for those who care about the environment; it is legally wrong.
As she notes, the conservative wing of the court continually emphasizes that they are jurists and not elected lawmakers and, surprisingly, Kavanaugh reminded Alito of that in the text of his concurrence.
"It is unusual for Kavanaugh to break with his conservative colleagues, and the fact that he did so here shows us how truly baseless the court’s reasoning is," she suggested before explaining, "Kavanaugh’s concurring opinion explains why the court’s interpretation of the text of the Clean Water Act is fundamentally unmoored from the text itself. To use his words, 'the Court is imposing a restriction nowhere to be found in the text.'"
"The question before the court in this case was which wetlands are considered to be 'adjacent' to a body of water covered by the act, and therefore itself protected by the act," she wrote. "While the court’s ultimate decision was unanimous, its reasoning was splintered. A thin five-member majority of the court, defying basic rules of legal interpretation, concluded that 'adjacent' means 'adjoining.'"
As she notes Kavanaugh pointed out that the court went out of its way to ignore the obvious meanings of the words involved.
"Kavanaugh tells us exactly why Justice Alito got it wrong, as well: his interpretation goes against the 'ordinary meaning' of the word 'adjacent' and the 'longstanding agency practice' of the Army Corps. Referring to dictionaries for the plain and ordinary meaning of the word adjacent, Kavanaugh notes, 'the definitions of "adjacent" are notably explicit that two things need not touch each other in order to be adjacent,'" she elaborated.
According to Levinson, Kavanaugh was being brutally blunt with Alito and his other conservative colleagues when he wrote, "I would stick to the text.”
"These six words are nothing less than the judicial version of a grenade," the law professor wrote before adding, "Kavanaugh is essentially reminding the majority that they had one job, and one job alone, when interpreting a federal law: to follow the text. They failed to do so. We will live with the practical and legal consequences of that failure for years to come."
www.rawstory.com
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Reacting to a blunt-talking concurring opinion submitted by Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh taking on the ruling authored by colleague Sam Alito, Loyola Law School Professor Jessica Levinson suggested in a new column for MSNBC there is the makings of a schism developing within the conservative majority court.
At issue was the court severely limiting the ability of the government to enforce the Clean Water Act, with Kavanaugh agreeing with the ultimate decision, but siding with the liberal wing in pointing out that the court is making law instead of interpreting it.
According to Levinson, the court's ruling was an egregious assertion of the court's authority and "the court’s ruling isn’t merely practically pernicious for those who care about the environment; it is legally wrong.
As she notes, the conservative wing of the court continually emphasizes that they are jurists and not elected lawmakers and, surprisingly, Kavanaugh reminded Alito of that in the text of his concurrence.
"It is unusual for Kavanaugh to break with his conservative colleagues, and the fact that he did so here shows us how truly baseless the court’s reasoning is," she suggested before explaining, "Kavanaugh’s concurring opinion explains why the court’s interpretation of the text of the Clean Water Act is fundamentally unmoored from the text itself. To use his words, 'the Court is imposing a restriction nowhere to be found in the text.'"
"The question before the court in this case was which wetlands are considered to be 'adjacent' to a body of water covered by the act, and therefore itself protected by the act," she wrote. "While the court’s ultimate decision was unanimous, its reasoning was splintered. A thin five-member majority of the court, defying basic rules of legal interpretation, concluded that 'adjacent' means 'adjoining.'"
As she notes Kavanaugh pointed out that the court went out of its way to ignore the obvious meanings of the words involved.
"Kavanaugh tells us exactly why Justice Alito got it wrong, as well: his interpretation goes against the 'ordinary meaning' of the word 'adjacent' and the 'longstanding agency practice' of the Army Corps. Referring to dictionaries for the plain and ordinary meaning of the word adjacent, Kavanaugh notes, 'the definitions of "adjacent" are notably explicit that two things need not touch each other in order to be adjacent,'" she elaborated.
According to Levinson, Kavanaugh was being brutally blunt with Alito and his other conservative colleagues when he wrote, "I would stick to the text.”
"These six words are nothing less than the judicial version of a grenade," the law professor wrote before adding, "Kavanaugh is essentially reminding the majority that they had one job, and one job alone, when interpreting a federal law: to follow the text. They failed to do so. We will live with the practical and legal consequences of that failure for years to come."
Brett Kavanaugh lobbed 'the judicial version of a grenade' at Sam Alito this week: analysis
Reacting to a blunt-talking concurring opinion submitted by Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh taking on the ruling authored by colleague Sam Alito, Loyola Law School Professor Jessica Levinson suggested in a new column for MSNBC there is the makings of a schism developing within the...
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Pertinacious Tom
Importunate Member
Two unanimous victories and a 6-3 for the Pacific Legal Foundation so far this term.
In the Sackett case, the court decided that a ditch or mud puddle doesn't transform every piece of land in the US into "navigable waters" to be regulated by the EPA.
In Tyler v Hennepin, Kochy nutjobs purchased another unanimous victory but no one really cares about what or why, so the power grab will go unanswered.
The other decision was written by new Kochy recruit Sotomayor:
I think a Wise Latina makes a fine addition to the stable of bought-and-paid-for SCOTUS Justices that Kochy nutjobs have purchased lately!
In the Sackett case, the court decided that a ditch or mud puddle doesn't transform every piece of land in the US into "navigable waters" to be regulated by the EPA.
In Tyler v Hennepin, Kochy nutjobs purchased another unanimous victory but no one really cares about what or why, so the power grab will go unanswered.
The other decision was written by new Kochy recruit Sotomayor:
I think a Wise Latina makes a fine addition to the stable of bought-and-paid-for SCOTUS Justices that Kochy nutjobs have purchased lately!
Mike in Seattle
Super Anarchist
Hey, has anybody got any good cow fart jokes ?
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Irish government says 200,000 cows need to be killed
Elon Musk weighed in on the issue on Twitter on the weekend, torching the Irish government, writing, “This really needs to stop. Killing some cows doesn’t matter for climate change."
Ireland Looking To Kill 200,000 Cows To Fight Climate Change; Are US Herds Next?
In the latest effort to reduce emissions from agriculture, Ireland said it may kill 200,000 cows. Meanwhile, climate activists have American farms and ranches in the crosshairs.
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3to1
Super Anarchist
fart jokes? yeah, something about when reich-wing dipshits open their mouths...
and the cow produced methane is expelled through the mouth, not the anus.
and the cow produced methane is expelled through the mouth, not the anus.
Mike in Seattle
Super Anarchist
Eat your seaweed and bugs, 3bait, and be happy.
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Now, a full 25% of beef that’s being imported into the European Union is now coming from Brazil," Tóibín said during a May 30 session. "How is it environmentally friendly to kill large swathes of the Amazon, import that beef from Brazil to substitute for Irish beef that’s been culled here in this state.
"The Irish know about this from the potato famine," Australian geologist Ian Plimer told Sky News of the reported plan for Irish cattle. "A third of their population died, a third emigrated, and the same thing will happen. They will lose productive people from Ireland, and they’ll go somewhere else." Plimer added that the proposal would "only end in disaster."
, a quick math formula,
crazy multiplied by insanity = killing your own food supply
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Elon Musk, farmers torch Ireland government proposal to slaughter 200K cows to meet EU climate change goals
Elon Musk and Ireland's farming industry slammed the Irish Department of Agriculture's reported proposal to cull 200,000 cows to meet EU climate goals.
www.foxnews.com
" ,,,
Now, a full 25% of beef that’s being imported into the European Union is now coming from Brazil," Tóibín said during a May 30 session. "How is it environmentally friendly to kill large swathes of the Amazon, import that beef from Brazil to substitute for Irish beef that’s been culled here in this state.
"The Irish know about this from the potato famine," Australian geologist Ian Plimer told Sky News of the reported plan for Irish cattle. "A third of their population died, a third emigrated, and the same thing will happen. They will lose productive people from Ireland, and they’ll go somewhere else." Plimer added that the proposal would "only end in disaster."
, a quick math formula,
crazy multiplied by insanity = killing your own food supply
Mike in Seattle
Super Anarchist
This is why I said ,,
, when I cited New zealand's way of taxing cows out of existance as their way of saving the planet
, when you can not answer in a rational way,
go evasive and start name calling.
Then, when i cite the Irish ( and apparently EU ) method of killing cows to save the planet,
most of you simply
yes., and the "experts" are all pee haich dot dees ,,
, smartest people on the whole freakin planet,, just ask them.
, and they want to make the cows eat seaweed.
, and they give us co2 scrubber masks for cows.
, and diapers for cows. ( that's a real thing too)
I'm NOT a pee haich dot dee ( thank God)
, just an unsophisticated dumbass country hick,
, who actually lived around cows, and other livestock.
AND find out the sophisticated, smarter than me urban folks,
are unable to understand that "prepubescent fart jokes"
are MOCKING the "experts" and legislators.
, still stands.
, so the rest of you,
Eat your seaweed and bugs. Be happy.
Danceswithoctopus
Cephalopod
Have you been working all year on this reply to my posts from last July?This is why I said ,,
, when I cited New zealand's way of taxing cows out of existance as their way of saving the planet
, when you can not answer in a rational way,
go evasive and start name calling.
Then, when i cite the Irish ( and apparently EU ) method of killing cows to save the planet,
most of you simply
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, and the "experts" are all pee haich dot dees ,,
, smartest people on the whole freakin planet,, just ask them.
, and they want to make the cows eat seaweed.
, and they give us co2 scrubber masks for cows.
, and diapers for cows. ( that's a real thing too)
I'm NOT a pee haich dot dee ( thank God)
, just an unsophisticated dumbass country hick,
, who actually lived around cows, and other livestock.
AND find out the sophisticated, smarter than me urban folks,
are unable to understand that "prepubescent fart jokes"
are MOCKING the "experts" and legislators.
, still stands.
, so the rest of you,
Eat your seaweed and bugs. Be happy.
LOL. Talk about triggered.
Mike in Seattle
Super Anarchist
Danceswithoctopus
Cephalopod
Naw, I'm good, Mike. Thanks. I still have some beef left in the freezer from the side I got from my daughter and son-in-law's ranch last year (shortly after I posted the comments you're just getting around to responding to now), and am looking forward to another side at the end of July.
