You realize that you are very quickly proving that your claims about supporting abortion are transparently false as you present all sorts of evidence and ideas supporting its ban, right?
And exactly how does that differ from what I wrote? Try again. Ectopic pregnancy? Rape? I could go on but in my part of the world a woman gets no say and the best to hope for is nothing after 6 weeks. Doesn't realize she is pregnant? Tough shit. Of course the push is to get the law passed to outlaw abortions. Period. Full stop. No exceptions. Unless the life of the mother is threatened? Okay and who gets to decide that? Texas has already pushed to make abortion a crime and anyone can turn them in and get a reward.
I completely agree. I’ll actually vote left in the midterms with the hope that this finally gets properly put into law.Nope. Though about 98.7% of all abortions happen in the first 20 weeks, so that would cover most non-medically necessitated abortions it's not enough. You need to be able to terminate a pregnancy at any point the life of the mother would be endangered by continuing it.
The current status - which severely limits 3rd trimester options and limits some 2nd tri options - is workable, although not ideal. 3rd trimester abortions, despite all the wild hype by the lying pro-lifers, are so rare as to be basically a statistical anomaly.
The theory that someone could terminate a 38 week fetus is ridiculous - no one does that. Pretty much all tests and exams that show a non-viable pregnancy are done well before then. But that does not mean we have a right to tell women not to, though there will not be able to find a doctor at that point to do the procedure so the point is moot - any OB/Gyn would just induce delivery.
Most abortions - about 90% - happen in the first trimester.
ACOG - pretty much the authority on women's health:
https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical-guidance/practice-bulletin/articles/2013/06/second-trimester-abortion
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/nine-out-of-10-abortions-done-before-12-weeks-in-many-high-income-countries/
A different view on the data:
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/04/raw-data-abortions-by-week-of-pregnancy/
France has had a VERY strong Catholic population, and that has held a lot of sway in keeping abortion rights somewhat checked. Though the trend is reversing.
I'll let you do the homework and point out the 1 state where that might be the case.
I’ve never put you on ignore. We’ve fought a bunch, but I respect dissenting opinions. It helps me learn different views. As far I as I know, AJ and Randumb are the only two folks from PA I’ve ever ignored, and that’s just because they act like trolls. I’ll completely admit I call you out when I think you argue like a hypocrite, but respect when it comes back at me. Conversations are just a little heated on PA.
I’m definitely not “in the party”. There’s plenty of stupid in that party as well. I’m currently just siding with the lesser of two evils.
I don't live in Virginia.
Thanks. I suspect [email protected] understands a bit better now where you are coming from. It's his turn to enable likewise w/regard to the three key questions/clarifications we've sought from him.
I'm still waiting for s/he/they to let us know how much jail-time we should face if we provide/procure/or consume abortion services.
My father, who described himself as a "hereditary Republican," disliked Dick Cheney before he was Vice President and could not stomach the GOP endorsing torture. Somewhere in that same 2003~2005 time frame, he told me that he would never vote for another Republican as long as he lived. I thought that was overly harsh.
Unfortunately, that is often the way of it. I have never been a fan of partisan politics, nor loyal to a party. I've always voted either for the best candidate or against the worst candidate. Lately all the Republicans I see running are either hateful pinheads, or playing the part. I remember when a higher percentage of Democrats than Republicans were segregationists, and I fully expect to see this flop again.
