SV Seeker

[Expat Canuck]

And now... he's aground, again.

 

[Zonker]

That's such a bad prop design. Anybody know the diameter? I think it's likely too big for the engine. Certainly the shape he drew in CAD is horrible. Blade profiles are horrible. Blade axis is awful.

Got to be about 36" in diameter or so?

From SV Seeker's own page. Man I have a good eyeball.

"A new 36″ bronze prop is about $3,600."

I like the 11 knots he's going to get.

 

[Zonker]

Look at her go. A light air monster. Showing a lot of antifouling paint in what looks like very little wind, and dragging the dinghy outboard (does look like the tender stern is not raised high enough so we'll say that was just a beginner error). Or the BST is heeling a lot more than I think

 

[toddster]

Well that’s cool. I have never been able to come around to “A good day“ when a grounding occurred.

I’m imagining the distant future when I’m old and senile and crapped my pants in the breakfast room, but the cute nurse comes to clean me up. A good day!

 

[socalrider]

Look at her go. A light air monster. Showing a lot of antifouling paint in what looks like very little wind, and dragging the dinghy outboard (does look like the tender stern is not raised high enough so we'll say that was just a beginner error). Or the BST is heeling a lot more than I think

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That looks like 5-6 knots of wind? Mains'l is only about 75% hoisted. That looks like an unhealthy amount of heel to me; no wonder it scared the crap out of Doug.

Also a great angle for viewing the wavy sheer line.

 

[opcn]

Is this when she was grounded? In the video of her grounded in the mississippi she had some serious list to her just while she wallowed back and forth in the mud.

 

[minca3]

I thought I understood it until I read this. Fixed in max pitch is a thing that should happen. The prop only has 90° of throw to adjust the blade pitch. If they have it set so it can both reverse and feather for sailing then there should only be so far it can depitch before it hits the end stop and can't depitch anymore, right? As I understand it the problem was them blowing seals and the prop feathering all the way to 0" of pitch (how you would feather a motor boat). Man nothing about this has ever made a damn lick of sense.

I don't think he changes the pitch. In the video he stated he so far only used "1st gear - neutral - reverse" of the bus transmission.

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

That's such a bad prop design. Anybody know the diameter? I think it's likely too big for the engine. Certainly the shape he drew in CAD is horrible. Blade profiles are horrible. Blade axis is awful.

Got to be about 36" in diameter or so?

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From SV Seeker's own page. Man I have a good eyeball.

"A new 36″ bronze prop is about $3,600."

I like the 11 knots he's going to get.

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I would have paid the $3600 and been happy.

In fact the prop on this boat costs over $4000 AUD though I bought it used for a bit over half that.

I am far too deeply into the 'I can do it better' mindset myself but if I can buy it at a reasonable price, there's no way I'll build it. I can't buy an extended life to get back the expended time.

FKT

 

[epoxypete]

Look at her go. A light air monster. Showing a lot of antifouling paint in what looks like very little wind, and dragging the dinghy outboard (does look like the tender stern is not raised high enough so we'll say that was just a beginner error). Or the BST is heeling a lot more than I think

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A speed demon ,for sure! I am seeing two "waterlines" in this photo. The first is the static waterline which Dugg guestimated and the other, at least a foot higher, looks like the part of the hull which got wet when the BSO was on the starboard tack. It appears to trace a shallow arc along where his portholes are. I sure hope those portholes are water tight, since this BSO is going to heel a whole lot more when the winds hit say 10 knots or a blistering 15 knots. Perhaps that plastic crap off the stern could serve as a speed break.

Dugg is in a fine pickle. however. The BSO requires all the sails to be fully hoisted and a fair breeze to at least get up to a few knots of SOG. Yet the boat also seems to be too heavy for the available sail area, and may require a considerable wind to even get up to hull speed. But hoisting all available sail in a nice wind looks like it can broach this BSO without much effort. And on and on it goes. He is well and truly fucked at this point and no amount of welding and learnin' can get him out of this dead end, not even a divorced transfer case.

The only thing divorced here is Dugg, from reality.

 

[mathystuff]

when the winds hit say 10 knots or a blistering 15 knots

I wonder what the wind range is, in which that thing can actually sail on a beam reach with full sails, making at least 4kts and not capsizing. Does it even exist?

 

[fukupananvil]

That's such a bad prop design. Anybody know the diameter? I think it's likely too big for the engine. Certainly the shape he drew in CAD is horrible. Blade profiles are horrible. Blade axis is awful.

Got to be about 36" in diameter or so?

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From SV Seeker's own page. Man I have a good eyeball.

"A new 36″ bronze prop is about $3,600."

I like the 11 knots he's going to get.

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Note the use of 80,000 lb. displacement (40 tons). He ended up more like 144,000 lb or 72 tons. Slight error there. Tis a big ass prop.

 

[fukupananvil]

Look at her go. A light air monster. Showing a lot of antifouling paint in what looks like very little wind, and dragging the dinghy outboard (does look like the tender stern is not raised high enough so we'll say that was just a beginner error). Or the BST is heeling a lot more than I think

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I think she is aground there, with dugh's woodworking friend from Ohio (rudy woodcraft on youtube) happening to snap a photo just after it happened. Not sure why the sails are still up, so maybe it was moving - don't see any bow wave or wake however. Yeh, portholes were in water in light conditions with no waves. Wait till he heads off shore. They did cut gaskets to improve the porthole sealing some number of videos past. I suppose his submarine building experience applies there. The real story, or parts of it, will slowly seep out of the main actor.

 

[Jim in Halifax]

Look at her go. A light air monster. Showing a lot of antifouling paint in what looks like very little wind, and dragging the dinghy outboard (does look like the tender stern is not raised high enough so we'll say that was just a beginner error). Or the BST is heeling a lot more than I think

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Holy fuck! That thing is tender. <10 knots, not even under full sail and it looks to have about 15 degrees of heel. The starboard side portholes must be awash. Hope he got the dogs and the seals on those sorted out...(but actually I couldn't care less).

EDIT: Fukup beat me to it. But I think its underway - just not enough speed for a bow wave. If he is aground, you'd think he'd release the sheets but, nah, Dugh don't fear no pussy sandbanks.

 

[epoxypete]

I wonder what the wind range is, in which that thing can actually sail on a beam reach with full sails, making at least 4kts and not capsizing. Does it even exist?

May I humbly suggest you are not alone in wondering if there is a wind speed known to man which can simultaneously drive that BSO at 4 kts, on a beam reach and not capsize. I think not. At least not out in the real world which Dugg is slowly becoming acquainted with despite his insistence to clinging on to the fantasy going on in the vacuum of his vacant cranium.

 

[mathystuff]

a wind speed known to man

He might have calculated with imaginary wind speeds or non-smooth wind vector fields.

Assuming a non-smooth wind vector field and using Riemanns series theorem the heeling moment might be finite while the driving force diverges.

This might require to trim the sails so they curl up in some hidden space dimensions. Some of the wrinkles in the sails caused by this in 3D space can be seen on the pictures.

Alternatively he could use the Banach-Tarski theorem to cut up his boat into two identical boats and build a catamaran to fix righting moment issues.

This is likely his best course of action, considering his experience with an angle grinder.

 

[fukupananvil]

He might have calculated with imaginary wind speeds or non-smooth wind vector fields.

Assuming a non-smooth wind vector field and using Riemanns series theorem the heeling moment might be finite while the driving force diverges.

This might require to trim the sails so they curl up in some hidden space dimensions. Some of the wrinkles in the sails caused by this in 3D space can be seen on the pictures.

Alternatively he could use the Banach-Tarski theorem to cut up his boat into two identical boats and build a catamaran to fix righting moment issues.

This is likely his best course of action, considering his experience with an angle grinder.

He ran out of Bessel functions.

 

[Latadjust]

...and that sailing boats is of little actual interest unless it involves young women in bikinis.

Well, uh, to be honest, sure, um, c'mon guys, we probably shouldn't nit pick

 

[Jim in Halifax]

Is this when she it was grounded? In the video of her it grounded in the mississippi she it had some serious list to her just while she it wallowed back and forth in the mud.

FIFY. This POS BSO doesn't deserve anthropomorphization. Even the reference to "wallowed in the mud" is probably disrespectful to pigs...

 

[Raz'r]

It played in to all his needs - the need to create dozens more videos to keep his income stream going (even as the boat itself was nearing something like completion and thus drying up as a source of video content) in addition to his running con game of anti-expert arrogance, a Corn Belt Fantasy Land where the self taught hobbyist can create absolutely anything he needs, for himself, even if those things are highly sophisticated technical achievements. As dim as Doug is he must have realized that the closer he got to the water the closer he got to having nothing further to say as he wasn't a sailor, had no prospects as a "researcher", and that sailing boats is of little actual interest unless it involves young women in bikinis. So the more complex it got, the better. More pipe, more wire, more welding...it's like a Winchester House of endless halls and rooms within rooms, all built with the purpose of keeping him off the water. But he's run out of options and now he's out there, anchored where he can get water and use the toilet at a bar. He can't afford a marina and hurricane season starts in 90 days.

Yep, it may suck as a boat, but it excelled for it's intended purpose, grifting.

 

[minca3]