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Zonker

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He has already added lead bricks to correct his bow down trim.

He put them inside fuel tanks. This is amazingly stupid because if he ever uses the tanks for diesel it can do bad things to the fuel.
 

opcn

Member
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Nordland, WA
He has done nothing to correct the tender nature of the boat, all they have done is deny the problem. The narrow beam of the boat compared to its displacement does contribute to being tender, but there is also a lot of weight above the centerline, with more than 1000 lbs of sail and batten, heavy steel utility poles for masts, an oversized pilothouse, a heavy crane off of a tow truck, and extensive large steel bulwarks ringing the deck.

He has never done stability calculations and they stopped doing stability testing once they corrected the list they discovered on launch by adding lead bars to the small auxiliary fuel tank over one of the keels and to the bottom of what would normally be a chain locker if the chain weren't stored on the spool of a winch above deck.

She is way overweight, so adding any weight is a deeply disadvantageous trade-off.
 

Autonomous

Turgid Member
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Dugg think.
The pros are narcissists, fuck them.
I have followed this guy on youtube,,, but only became aware of this thread today. If I understand correctly, he built the boat, sailed it a little, found it to be tender, and then added weight to the bilge by pouring in lead. After that it was still too tender. we can assume it is tender because it has a high hull length to width ratio

My 2 cents worth is that he would be better off adding weight down as low as possible, by that I mean adding weight to the soles to the two bilge keels

Having an over sized propeller for the engine seems silly, are there not books that deal with all that? I am sure I read there is a formula,,, David Gerr(?) I am sure wrote something about this. If the propeller is too big, then maybe try a smaller propeller?

The placement of the tender at the stern is way too low,, assume he tends to fix that later?

Rake of the forward mast is just the way Chinese have always built junk rigs, there is a reason for it, sail balance or something,, IMHO it looks unusual but is a time tested way of setting the foremast
You give him too much credit. The boat and systems, the whole thing, has not been engineered. Loads, load paths, structure, weight, etc. are left to chance.
It's way overweight and way beyond adding ballast.
He refuses to listen to constructive criticism. His diesel propulsion system is scabbed together and rather than properly rebuild it he adds a transfer case from an old 4wd pickup!
 

peterAustralia

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dont be a cock

just because u have spent dozens of hours in this thread,,, does not mean everyone is obliged to, very sorry that your parents did not care for you whilst you were growing up, and you are still not over that
 

TritonKestrel

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God damn this thread ain't fun anymore, this isn't even the entertaining boat infighting anymore. Thread's about a big ego building a crappy boat, don't need a phd in boats to see it. wish we could get back to doug bashing like the ol days... he needs to fake another brain injury
 

billsreef

Anarchist
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799
Miami
He has already added lead bricks to correct his bow down trim.

He put them inside fuel tanks. This is amazingly stupid because if he ever uses the tanks for diesel it can do bad things to the fuel.
Well, he does like to learn on his own... the hard way.
 

LiquidSun

Not Sunny
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Seattle
How about a simpler prediction:

How many hoists will Dug’s jackassed “cheek block” survive under 650lb mainsail halyard weight?

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opcn

Member
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Nordland, WA
How about a simpler prediction:

How many hoists will Dug’s jackassed “cheek block” survive under 650lb mainsail halyard weight?

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I'm sure that using a shiv that's 2.5x the line diameter won't ruin the line and contribute to catastrophic failures. That's just big pulley FUD to try and manipulate the weak minded into buying big expensive pulleys.
 

167149

Super Anarchist
Best case failure mode is a freak 15kt gust on the beam knocks her down under full sail in 15' of water during one of his endless attempts to get the rigging sorted in light air. She down floods immediately and sinks to the bottom, and everyone kick-paddle kick-paddles to shore safely with no casualties. That's honestly what I'm hoping for. Still a messy salvage operation.
what the fuck would you do with it after salvage ???
 

DELETED

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Whatever the pros and cons of this guys adventure are, its clearly entertaining. You have inspired me to watch 1hour of his stuff… BRB…
 

noaano

Anarchist
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WTF is a brix sextant

A simple, fixed (multiple) angle sextant.

As a bonus, by design it has sort of clever integrated image stabilization.

With brix, the workflow is a bit different, but in practice you can achieve equal or even a bit more precise fix than with traditional sextants.
 

Fah Kiew Tu

Curmudgeon, First Rank
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when she starts pitching about you’ll be on board? I am skeptical is all I’m saying enough so that I won’t be on board if offered. I never once said anything about mixed metals I think the boat will heel wildly under 25knts putting extreme strain on a modified design. His overall welds will become a test then. The house and his aluminum will all crack I know it. I can bet may of his square fitments he wire wheeled the mill sheen off and then started welding are already failed. The one thing g I still don’t know was what the hull Plating is?

Change of topic? I'm only commenting here on the 316 to carbon steel welding, not anything to do with what DOUG has done on his BSO.

I reiterate, welding 316 to carbon steel is a routine practice, it's done all the time, if you use the correct filler there really isn't a problem. I've got heaps of bits done like that on my own boat, I did them and I'm totally confident in their structural integrity.

Did DOUG do it correctly? Dunno. Probably not.

Would I go anywhere on that thing of his? Fuck no.

FKT
 

dfw_sailor

Super Anarchist
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Whatever the pros and cons of this guys adventure are, its clearly entertaining. You have inspired me to watch 1hour of his stuff… BRB…

Grasshopper, be warned you will get to the point where the videos become very tiresome, Dug does his best to not show the true sailing characteristics of the BSO.

But someone will watch and point out any nuggets here.
 
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