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LiquidSun

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But majority of tornados are imperial not metric.

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Se7en

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No, 6400 is a number that no human can accurately visualize. It's not a metric thing, it's a numbers thing. https://gizmodo.com/how-to-comprehend-incomprehensibly-large-numbers-1531604757


Even Kim Peek, the inspiration for rain man, couldn't do that.
Your point about 6400 is somewhat valid.
But that's the beauty of the metric system. You don't visualise 6400 of anything. You visualise 6.4 cubes that are 10m on a side all stacked on top of each other. Works nicely when you have a system that uses base 10...

(heading off to a concert with 5000 others. Prety sure I can visualise how many people that is. It's about the number of people who would stand in 10 square chains or 1 acre... or 6 acre feet of people :) )
 

opcn

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Your point about 6400 is somewhat valid.
But that's the beauty of the metric system. You don't visualise 6400 of anything. You visualise 6.4 cubes that are 10m on a side all stacked on top of each other. Works nicely when you have a system that uses base 10...

(heading off to a concert with 5000 others. Prety sure I can visualise how many people that is. It's about the number of people who would stand in 10 square chains or 1 acre... or 6 acre feet of people :) )

That's not a thing though. 6.4 cubes of 10m a side is just another way to say 6400 because no one can envision a cube with ten units to a side effectively.

I used the metric number first, to make the conversion easier. And then I followed best practices and used a figure that more of the audience can understand (in my experience Canadians and Brits understand acres better that hectares and pretty much everyone knows what a foot is). I live very near the border, I get Canadian radio stations on the car radio if I drive into town to get groceries, I get ads for homes in Canada, square feet and acres are listed all the time.

As was pointed out above tornadoes are mostly a function of the SAE world.
 

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How hard do you guys work to avoid the metric system?
A ton of water is a cube 1m by 1m by 1m. A thousand tons is 10m by 10m by 10m. Much easier than converting gallons to furkins to cubits and then trying to see how many times Henry 8th's cod piece would need to be piled on itself over the area a yak can plow in a day!
Grew up with units such as lbs and psi; for which I developed a feel, but never developed a feel for newtons and pascals, even when required to report numbers in both type units. Things like meters, kg, and liters, a quick mental coversion with some eventual feel developed. For stresses and strains, I ended up working in lbs and psi and converting to metric (reporting both) when required for a written report. So I guess I've been lazy or perhaps working hard avoiding comfort with a full mental conversion.
The Hubble telescope suffered issues related to different suppliers using different measuring system units, discovered only after launch.
SV Seeker would seem to have suffered issues related to using different measuring system units, some discovered prior to and after launch, such as 1.1' metacenter, 65,000 kg, which if it was 1.1 m and 65000 lb might make more sense. Dugh worked pretty hard to avoid both systems of measurement. He had no plans or calculations and just arrived at whatever he built that day, and he is proud of it. Not fair to bash Dugh on not using the metric system.
While we are at it on technical issues, which way does the water circulate in the toilet down there? While in NZ I observed the flow was turbulent with no distinct circulation. Things different in Australia? Perhaps Dugh can sort this one out.
 

low bum

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How hard do you guys work to avoid the metric system?
A ton of water is a cube 1m by 1m by 1m. A thousand tons is 10m by 10m by 10m. Much easier than converting gallons to furkins to cubits and then trying to see how many times Henry 8th's cod piece would need to be piled on itself over the area a yak can plow in a day!
We'll work as hard as it takes. We prefer units of freedom, thanks.
 

167149

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since when were there tornados in the southern hemisphere ?
april 2019 national park village Mt Ruapehu NZ, a delightfully playful tornado came dancing n down the road (Buddo street) and cut the corner into turner parade, result was our ski house (3 beds etc) was picked up, flicked over and sent flying 3 sections up the road, bloody hard to get stuff out of the remains as the floor covered everything, oh and along the way it also picked up the woodshed (complete with 5 metres of gum in it) and sent that sailing next door as well............ so yep we get em down here as well
 

kent_island_sailor

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april 2019 national park village Mt Ruapehu NZ, a delightfully playful tornado came dancing n down the road (Buddo street) and cut the corner into turner parade, result was our ski house (3 beds etc) was picked up, flicked over and sent flying 3 sections up the road, bloody hard to get stuff out of the remains as the floor covered everything, oh and along the way it also picked up the woodshed (complete with 5 metres of gum in it) and sent that sailing next door as well............ so yep we get em down here as well
They spin the wrong way don't they :p
 
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What does fabrication of a rudder pin have to do with the mission statement of Sea Chest Foundation? Is this accomplishment supposed to be interpreted as a success after 15 years?

The Sea Chest Foundation is a 501(C)(3), nonprofit organization dedicated to operating, outfitting, maintaining and staffing water vessels for ocean research and other charitable causes.

Exploring the world, one ocean at a time.


We have been asked to assist with a research and recovery project in the Lesser Antilles . We will likely be joined by another vessel and couldn’t be more excited. We’ll release more information as the plans are finalized. In the meantime we’ll watch as Seeker makes her way to the ocean and completes her rigging and sea trials.

None of the 3 statements above have been fulfilled. All lies.
 

Diarmuid

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I think 95+% of the world can perfectly well envision what that is. Only 4.something % of the world population uses these archaic measurements, the rest of the planet moved on some 150 years ago.
How many minutes are in your hour, and how many hours in your day? How many degrees are on your compass, and do you reckon boat & wind speeds in knots or km/h? Let's install a metric machine screw: we'll use a M3.5x0.6 fastener and drill a #32 tap hole, b/c that's fucking decimal. :rolleyes:
 

Bagheera

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Unfortunately they have not made a metric clock or earth grid yet. Speeds are always in m/s, because that is the metric version...
You can just use metric taps, they make a lot more sense anyway. Who in his right mind would come up with the smallest size being the highest number, and than make the numbers smaller as the bolts get bigger, oh shit, we ran out of numbers. Well lets use fractions of the width of the thumb of the king instead. Don't even get me started on drill bits. Number 88 through one than A to Z and than fractions of the width of the thumb of the king. You must be off your rockers if you think that it is a workable system.

Ask the average Joe if drill size X is smaller or bigger than 25/64. Fuck that.
 


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