SV Seeker

opcn

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I received a reply from a comment on that video asking what they were sailing and how fast they were going. Sleeker was passed quite handily to leeward by a C&C35 MK1 doing 5.5 knots!

Seeker seems to top out at ~4.2 kts so it's entirely unsurprising that she would be easily overtaken by a 35 ft boat. An athletic kayaker or stand up paddle boarder can probably overtake seeker.
 

kent_island_sailor

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Not my cup of tea

but thanks for the offer

I have enough sailing to do here...

and, after a lifetime of business travel as a working journo I hate going on aeroplanes as I always assumeI will die in a crash

so it woud be hard to get to the starting point but

can you imagine the sound of seven overweight old blokes snoring in that sound box of a boat

D

PS do any of the shit posters want to fess up to being even the tiniest bit wrong?
You are a kind soul and see the best in people.
I wish this was a harmless old man having some fun.
I have worked on boats for a living and sailed through storms offshore in my thousands of miles of ocean sailing and I have probably 10% of the experience of some on CA.
Every time I look at that thing I see dangerous engineering that is likely to hurt people. I see a boat that would literally be destroyed in 5 minutes or less in weather offshore. I also see a grifter taking money from gullible people. It makes it hard to smile on this misadventure.
 

Fah Kiew Tu

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Yeah, all that's true, but he does have a nice lathe, even if he doesn't use it.

Well, he has a lathe. As a tool snob, IMO it isn't a nice lathe.

I have a small Austrian Emco Maximat 11 lathe and a UK Dean Smith and Grace lathe, arguably one of the finest lathes ever built. I sold a USA made Monarch lathe, also one of the best lathes ever built, to get my DS&G.

As I said, tool snob.

FKT
 

Raz'r

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Well, he has a lathe. As a tool snob, IMO it isn't a nice lathe.

I have a small Austrian Emco Maximat 11 lathe and a UK Dean Smith and Grace lathe, arguably one of the finest lathes ever built. I sold a USA made Monarch lathe, also one of the best lathes ever built, to get my DS&G.

As I said, tool snob.

FKT
haha - i've got a early 50's Logan cabinet base unit. I like it for what I need.
 

Foiling Optimist

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Well, he has a lathe. As a tool snob, IMO it isn't a nice lathe.

I have a small Austrian Emco Maximat 11 lathe and a UK Dean Smith and Grace lathe, arguably one of the finest lathes ever built. I sold a USA made Monarch lathe, also one of the best lathes ever built, to get my DS&G.

As I said, tool snob.

FKT
For people who don't know a lot about lathes, I can independently confirm that selling a Monarch to get a DS&G is absolutely a tool snob move. In a good way.
 

Fah Kiew Tu

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For people who don't know a lot about lathes, I can independently confirm that selling a Monarch to get a DS&G is absolutely a tool snob move. In a good way.

The big difference was, the Monarch only had a 1-1/2" spindle bore and the DS&G has a 2-5/8" spindle bore. Having owned both I can say that while the DS&G is a better lathe for my personal needs, the Monarch was built like a brick shithouse, incredibly rigid and even after 70 years, still accurate. It's one of the finest lathes made, ever, by any country.

FKT
 

Bilge Boy

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I am trying to keep up with the toolshop here, especially since Doug now lives on his boat - is the lathe now on Seeker? Maybe I took this up wrong, but still curious as to what is in the Seeker onboard workshop - certainly seems a little bit more than the average yot, and curious also to consider the seaworthiness of the welding gear and all the rest as the BSO heels to the 10 knot breeze in flat seas...
 

Zonker

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Yes he has a lathe aboard. But his favorite tool seems to be a table saw that he stands right in line with the blade so if any piece of metal ever kicks back it's going right into his gut.

~4 knots in well over 10 knots of wind is not very good for a 74' BST.
 

Fah Kiew Tu

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haha - i've got a early 50's Logan cabinet base unit. I like it for what I need.

Any lathe is better than no lathe. The Logan is a definite cut above a South Bend.

If it has the rigidity, accuracy and speed to do the work you want to do, it's all good.

I remember Doug's lathe, it was some generic Chinese model with a D1-4 chuck mount. He broke a jaw on a 3 jaw chuck and rather than spending ~$100 or so to buy another one, new, welded it back up. Faaark. Hardened and ground jaws supposedly made to a runout tolerance of maybe 0.002" to 0.004" and he thinks he can just weld a broken bit back on???

Oh well as long as he has it low in the boat I guess it's extra ballast.

FKT
 

dylan winter

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So essentially - he has built the largest 4ktsb ever, and winds over 20 knots will be a brown pants event.
Sorry Dylan, it is hard to see this as a win.
Never said it was a win...the boat clearly has lots and lots of issues. But all boats have issues.

You have to admit that he has given a lot of pleasure and entertainment to a lot of old men - some directly and some vicariously.

There has been a lot of vituperous glee showing through the surface on some of the posts aboveand on Reddit.



So far no-one has been hurt.... yet. Although dougie did his inadvisable explosion stunt.

Tallyho man is now missing a finger I seem to remember..... Dougie and all his helpers still have the full quota.

The boat sails, it has not sunk, it has not flipped.

So far so good is all I am saying and he has regularly confounded his most ardent critics.

I quite understand that he has been offered advice and has chosen not to take it. My youtube comments are full of advice - some is good but most of it is complete pants.

There is nothing wrong with four knots - that is a good speed for me and my boats... although cunning use of our 20 foot tides and the flows they produce gives me six knots at times. If you want to go faster on the water then buy a cat, jetski or a power boat.

Sailing for most people is not about speed.

Still no humble pie

I have had my say and will retreat to PA now before some of you turn your ire on me
 
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fukupananvil

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I am trying to keep up with the toolshop here, especially since Doug now lives on his boat - is the lathe now on Seeker? Maybe I took this up wrong, but still curious as to what is in the Seeker onboard workshop - certainly seems a little bit more than the average yot, and curious also to consider the seaworthiness of the welding gear and all the rest as the BSO heels to the 10 knot breeze in flat seas...
Dugh is trying to keep up with the toolshop here. The carbon monoxide generating system seems to be working well.
 

low bum

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I mean the guy has worked his ass off, and it does float. No one has gotten hurt, that I know of. Yet. I can maybe see him being a good neighbor, always ready to loan you a tool and give you a beer. But there are so many amateur builders out there that have done so much better, and spent so much less, and have so much more to show for it. I think it's his pig headedness that grates on everyone. Maybe we see some of that in ourselves sometimes and we're taking it out on him. I know I've used a screwdriver as a chisel and a wrench as a hammer plenty of times. But at some point he has to realize he's "playing with real money" as the saying goes - lives are at stake - and the bizarre contraptions he comes up with to solve mundane problems with tried and true solutions are slightly infuriating.

Once upon a time a computer cubicle guy learned (sort of) how to weld, and got a crazy light in his eyes, and now that's his answer for everything. Not being able to afford things, he decided he would build things. But not things like houses or ordinary boats that he can actually complete correctly...no...he decided he'd build things like wooden submarines and massive freaking steel sailboats, but he would ignore all the good advice people offered him because caution and expertise to him smell like some kind of cowardice. And he would have weird internet dreamers pay for it all because he sure as hell couldn't. And along the way he starts lying. And then he gets mean and spiteful and slaps the hand that offers help. So now he reaps the whirlwind, probably literally, and I'm gonna eat popcorn while it happens.

And I would gladly trade a finger for Tally Ho. Just bring the hatchet down quick and don't make a mess of it.
 

Lark

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Never said it was a win...the boat clearly has lots and lots of issues. But all boats have issues.

You have to admit that he has given a lot of pleasure and entertainment to a lot of old men - some directly and some vicariously.

There has been a lot of vituperous glee showing through the surface on some of the posts aboveand on Reddit.



So far no-one has been hurt.... yet. Although dougie did his inadvisable explosion stunt.

Tallyho man is now missing a finger I seem to remember..... Dougie and all his helpers still have the full quota.

The boat sails, it has not sunk, it has not flipped.

So far so good is all I am saying and he has regularly confounded his most ardent critics.

I quite understand that he has been offered advice and has chosen not to take it. My youtube comments are full of advice - some is good but most of it is complete pants.

There is nothing wrong with four knots - that is a good speed for me and my boats... although cunning use of our 20 foot tides and the flows they produce gives me six knots at times. If you want to go faster on the water then buy a cat, jetski or a power boat.

Sailing for most people is not about speed.

Still no humble pie

I have had my say and will retreat to PA now before some of you turn your ire on me
I’m an idle spectator. If it survives a crossing or succumbs to 25 knots, I‘m guaranteed entertainment.

It did sail better than a leaky air mattress but it’s not quite competitive with my trailer sailor. Maybe a reach is its poor point of sail. It also lacks wheels for rapid movement to a new venue. I look forward to watching it in conditions my stub keel 22 might find challenging. I doubt it could have performed the tasks I’ve watched your boats do. What tasks can it perform your boats couldn’t, except perhaps carrying a lathe in the basement.

Tally Ho rocks and I’m in awe of what that man does with a chainsaw. It shouldn’t be found in the same (manure) lagoon as Seeker.
 

Fah Kiew Tu

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Never said it was a win...the boat clearly has lots and lots of issues. But all boats have issues.

You have to admit that he has given a lot of pleasure and entertainment to a lot of old men - some directly and some vicariously.

There has been a lot of vituperous glee showing through the surface on some of the posts aboveand on Reddit.



So far no-one has been hurt.... yet. Although dougie did his inadvisable explosion stunt.

Tallyho man is now missing a finger I seem to remember..... Dougie and all his helpers still have the full quota.

The boat sails, it has not sunk, it has not flipped.

So far so good is all I am saying and he has regularly confounded his most ardent critics.

I quite understand that he has been offered advice and has chosen not to take it. My youtube comments are full of advice - some is good but most of it is complete pants.

There is nothing wrong with four knots - that is a good speed for me and my boats... although cunning use of our 20 foot tides and the flows they produce gives me six knots at times. If you want to go faster on the water then buy a cat, jetski or a power boat.

Sailing for most people is not about speed.

Still no humble pie

I have had my say and will retreat to PA now before some of you turn your ire on me

I feel sorry about the waste of time & resources really. He could have built something quite nice with the same amount of time & money.

Yep it's been a somewhat entertaining build but the end product sucks IMO.

The speed side I don't care about, I agree with you, often we poke along at 4 knots, it's a nice speed and it's quiet. I like it. I don't sail in 25-30 knots either, in fact if I have anything to do with it I stay on a mooring or in the lee of a nice island if there's that much wind. If I have to go somewhere upwind and it's a bit vigorous I either motor or motor-sail, I can easily do 6-7 knots motor-sailing to windward. Fuck all that tacking caper.

You'll get no ire from me on this one.

FKT
 


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