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WhoaTed
Antichrist
JFC, it’s VISE.
bmiller
Super Anarchist
Not on that piece of shit. Vice is appropriate.
WhoaTed
Antichrist
Apologies, I forgot what thread I was in.
opcn
Member
There is a forward companionway just starboard of the door we see. It has a heavy ass "watertight" door that opens into the forward cabin and then an extension ladder inside of a steel chute welded at like 30° off vertical and then a sliding hatch (not watertight) leading out onto the deck.
What could this object #30 be? Good job labelling them all with a number.
How mindless do you have to be to write "BOX" on all them in case of any doubt what they are
And not to realize that sailboats heel over.
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He used to have the plastic totes stored with a bunch of stuff in cardboard boxes. Labeling them as such may have been a way to make clear what he meant when he told someone that what they wanted would be in box #12 or whatever.
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opcn
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Tell me, is it common for a youtube channel to lose a thousand subscribers in a month? https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/svseeker Or do we think people are just sick of watching Doug do anything but sail?
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Sail4beer
Starboard!
Ouch!
What's your evidence for that?
dfw_sailor
Super Anarchist
None, other than a person with financial prudence would obviously protect his or her assets against potential lawsuits by demonstrating an appropriate approach to duty of care for any person who stepped on the vessel, including a rigorous examination of vessel stability across the range of wind and waves likely to be experienced on the open ocean, for which dug claims the vessel is designed for, and which he still claims he intends to do, as evidenced by his continued fund raising and the stated purpose of the vessel.
Along with stability tests would be risk assessments of trip, fall, and overhead / head height hazards present during the normal seaway movement of the vessel and occupants inside the vessel.
I could go on, but at this point I would charge for my advice, and it is unlikely dug would be prepared to pay for such advice to minimize the prospects of serious damage claims against what ever assets he may possess.
So the only valid conclusion is he either doesn't give a shit about his assets, or has no assets to give a shit about, because the evidence dug has offered by way of YouTube videos, Reddit comments and so on, including dismissing valid knowledgeable questions and criticisms precludes him from an ignorance defence if and when a serious injury or worse occurs while a person is under his duty of care as designer, builder and operator of the BST.
Perhaps you have evidence otherwise? If so, do tell.
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opcn
Member
Willful ignorance is also a likely explanation. Doug keeps DMCAing links to his youtube videos based on a disclaimer he added to the bottom that no one agreed to and which violates both youtube's terms of service and established caselaw on the matter.
Doug does a really good job of being manipulative. He's really great at leaving a trail of breadcrumbs from A to B and then after his critics land on B releasing proof that it was actually C. A stupid person can't do that, but someone with a strong narcissistic bent absolutely can, and will be too self important to bother to learn about the law or about stability calculations or design criteria. The whole problem with this build isn't that doug is too stupid to build a boat, I know plenty of stupid guys who have built boats, the problem is that Doug thinks too highly of himself so he doesn't think that things like liability apply to him. He thinks his copy paper liability release form that every volunteer signs is enough.
dfw_sailor
Super Anarchist
Perhaps sea lion, with his legal background, might care to advise dug that on this occasion, given these circumstances, the signed forms are only good for wiping his arse.
opcn
Member
If he were any better he wouldn't be sealioning.
Fah Kiew Tu
Curmudgeon, First Rank
Indeed, one may well argue that building a biggish boat as an amateur is one of the definitions of stupidity...
FKT
fukupananvil
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The foward bunk room, in the above pic, has a companionway coming down into it on stbd side. It has a sliding hatch topside which closes by sliding to stbd. To my knowledge It is not water or airtight. I believe there are 3 "watertight" doors total, one in each of the 3 bulkheads separating foward bunk room, cargo hold, machine/engine room, and aft bunk room. Unless I am mistaken, there are no watertight doors at the bottom of the 2 companionways. Consequently, a knockdown to stbd will risk flooding through the front and rear companionways and the cargo hatch. The sloped wall of cedar on the stbd side in the forward bulkhead separating the forward bunk room from the cargo hold is the back of that companionway. It is occupying the mirror image of the gas bottles. The pic below shows part of that sloped wall visible through the yellow coil of wire or whatever it is, maybe HF air hose. I guess you could attempt to escape up the foward bunk companionway if the inrush of water doesn't propel you through the door into the cargo room. From there your choices are try to open the cargo hatch, which will likely bind and have its own inrush going on, and which is likely impossible from below, go for the rear companionway, which will likely have more of an inrush of water, or head towards the stern and get through 2 more doors go for the rear bunk room hatch, all the while having your world on its side and all sorts of objects dislodging and moving in the incoming swirls of seawater. Maybe not so bad if the knockdown is to port. Anyhow, safety considerations are for pussies.
Can you offer or direct me to a picture of the heavy ass door on the forward companionway? I somehow missed the build and installation of that door. I thought there were 3 "watertight" doors, one in each bulkhead. Am I mistaken in thinking there is also no such door on the aft companionway? The forward companionway is visible at 2:47 in the following video of outfitting the forward bunk area:
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I like how any box can instantly become any other box, simply by swapping the lids. That's good planning right there.
That forward door is the one you always see with the stupid pirate cutlass things on it. That's the only bulkhead door I've seen but I'm getting really allergic to his videos and have developed a painful rash.
I guess the subscribers don't appreciate all the research there is to be done on fecal effluent in inshore waters.
That forward door is the one you always see with the stupid pirate cutlass things on it. That's the only bulkhead door I've seen but I'm getting really allergic to his videos and have developed a painful rash.
I guess the subscribers don't appreciate all the research there is to be done on fecal effluent in inshore waters.
fukupananvil
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Vise it is. But railing with clamps is the preferred tooling. He really needs an anvil.
Wow. At least one person in this thread is willing to admit that they are making completely baseless claims. Good on you for that, I guess.
It does make me wonder why you would do that, though.
I mean, what if I were to judt start making claims about you for which I had no evidence--how would you feel about that?
Why do you think it's OK to make claims about peoole when you know that you have no evidence that the claim is true?
How do I meet the definition of a sea lion?
fukupananvil
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I've tried to sort his doors out in order to orient myself in his and other folk's pics. The three main bulkhead doors are:
Forward bunk/cargo hold = orange octopus (was purple or black for a while)
Cargo hold/engine room = dragon links with straight orange swords
Engine room/aft bunk = silver curved sword links
The first two swing aft and are hinged stbd side. The last swings forward and is hinged port side. Still seeking evidence of companionway doors. I don't think there are any.
Lol. So in your world does vice/vise rhyme with advice or advise?
