SV Seeker

[chester]

The foward bunk room, in the above pic, has a companionway coming down into it on stbd side. It has a sliding hatch topside which closes by sliding to stbd. To my knowledge It is not water or airtight. I believe there are 3 "watertight" doors total, one in each of the 3 bulkheads separating foward bunk room, cargo hold, machine/engine room, and aft bunk room. Unless I am mistaken, there are no watertight doors at the bottom of the 2 companionways. Consequently, a knockdown to stbd will risk flooding through the front and rear companionways and the cargo hatch. The sloped wall of cedar on the stbd side in the forward bulkhead separating the forward bunk room from the cargo hold is the back of that companionway. It is occupying the mirror image of the gas bottles. The pic below shows part of that sloped wall visible through the yellow coil of wire or whatever it is, maybe HF air hose. I guess you could attempt to escape up the foward bunk companionway if the inrush of water doesn't propel you through the door into the cargo room. From there your choices are try to open the cargo hatch, which will likely bind and have its own inrush going on, and which is likely impossible from below, go for the rear companionway, which will likely have more of an inrush of water, or head towards the stern and get through 2 more doors go for the rear bunk room hatch, all the while having your world on its side and all sorts of objects dislodging and moving in the incoming swirls of seawater. Maybe not so bad if the knockdown is to port. Anyhow, safety considerations are for pussies.

Can you offer or direct me to a picture of the heavy ass door on the forward companionway? I somehow missed the build and installation of that door. I thought there were 3 "watertight" doors, one in each bulkhead. Am I mistaken in thinking there is also no such door on the aft companionway? The forward companionway is visible at 2:47 in the following video of outfitting the forward bunk area:

ahhh, Doug always pointing at stuff.

 

[billsreef]

So, he has watertight doors below decks to keep the water from moving forward and aft, but non watertight deck hatches to in order to get the water into the boat? Makes perfect sense.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Anyone know whether doug is a sovereign citizen? seems to be on that side of the reality line.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

How do I meet the definition of a sea lion?

 

[dfw_sailor]

Wow. At least one person in this thread is willing to admit that they are making completely baseless claims. Good on you for that, I guess.

It does make me wonder why you would do that, though.

I mean, what if I were to judt start making claims about you for which I had no evidence--how would you feel about that?

Why do you think it's OK to make claims about peoole when you know that you have no evidence that the claim is true?

It would seem logic, reading and deduction is beyond your comprehension. You left out the "other than...." part.

 

[opcn]

The foward bunk room, in the above pic, has a companionway coming down into it on stbd side. It has a sliding hatch topside which closes by sliding to stbd. To my knowledge It is not water or airtight. I believe there are 3 "watertight" doors total, one in each of the 3 bulkheads separating foward bunk room, cargo hold, machine/engine room, and aft bunk room. Unless I am mistaken, there are no watertight doors at the bottom of the 2 companionways. Consequently, a knockdown to stbd will risk flooding through the front and rear companionways and the cargo hatch. The sloped wall of cedar on the stbd side in the forward bulkhead separating the forward bunk room from the cargo hold is the back of that companionway. It is occupying the mirror image of the gas bottles. The pic below shows part of that sloped wall visible through the yellow coil of wire or whatever it is, maybe HF air hose. I guess you could attempt to escape up the foward bunk companionway if the inrush of water doesn't propel you through the door into the cargo room. From there your choices are try to open the cargo hatch, which will likely bind and have its own inrush going on, and which is likely impossible from below, go for the rear companionway, which will likely have more of an inrush of water, or head towards the stern and get through 2 more doors go for the rear bunk room hatch, all the while having your world on its side and all sorts of objects dislodging and moving in the incoming swirls of seawater. Maybe not so bad if the knockdown is to port. Anyhow, safety considerations are for pussies.

Can you offer or direct me to a picture of the heavy ass door on the forward companionway? I somehow missed the build and installation of that door. I thought there were 3 "watertight" doors, one in each bulkhead. Am I mistaken in thinking there is also no such door on the aft companionway? The forward companionway is visible at 2:47 in the following video of outfitting the forward bunk area:

You're right, there are only three watertight doors, I was thinking there were four.

JFC

 

[lakeneuch]

I had just a sudden revelation with regards to the discussed stability of Seeker. Everyone is approaching the question from the completely wrong side, we all know that to produce fast (and relatively safe) sailing stability is important. But there is a completely different approach to speed that we tend to forget. And Seeker is extremely well prepared for it, I obviously talk of libera-style trapeze madness.
Now imagine instead of a mere 10 persons on trapeze as have some of the liberas (see ) imagine how many much more scientists you can hang on 3 very solid steel masts! Plus there are even outriggers present to maximise effect! These carbon masts hold 10 trapezes... we all know (citation needed...) that steel masts are at least 3 times stronger than the carbon ones, so you can hang 33 heavy guys (100kg each, scientists are all lazy lab rats) at each mast, giving up to 10 tons (metric... sorry) movable balast at an extremely advantageous place.
So instead of thinking that Seeker is not stable enough for scientific voyages, it's the opposite! It is actually only safe to sail Seeker with a huge scientific crew on the trapezes!

 

[low bum]

I've tried to sort his doors out in order to orient myself in his and other folk's pics. The three main bulkhead doors are:

Awesome attention to detail. Thanks.

 

[AnIdiot]

How do I meet the definition of a sea lion?

See Post 5013.

Let's try again:
Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

Now...
Are you feigning ignorance of the SV Seeker project? I'll give you this one- No, you are not. However, this is insufficient: ignorance, as they say, is no defence.
Are you maintaining a pretence of civility and sincerity? Yes, you are.
Are you relentlessly requesting evidence for claims? Yes, you are
Are those claims tangential to the topic or previously addressed? Yes, they are.

Now, it is claimed that you have a legal background. I have to admit I remain sceptical about that but if you do, then you must surely have the ability to read and understand the above.

The prosecution rests. The defence may speak, however I must remind you that the court of public opinion has already found you guilty and that anything you say may be given in evidence...

I'd also like to take this opportunity to refer you to my earlier advice in the post referenced above and request that you kindly Fuck Off.

 

[low bum]

Anyone know whether doug is a sovereign citizen? seems to be on that side of the reality line.

I can see him absolutely telling the Coast Guard that they have no right to board based on certain interesting things he discovered while researching maritime law on Wikipedia.

 

[AnIdiot]

Lol. So in your world does vice/vise rhyme with advice or advise?

I think he's using imperial tools: IIUC, if whatever you're clamping is measured in inches then you clamp it in a vise, whereas metric items are clamped in vices.

Might need to check in with Burma & Liberia to confirm...

 

[MR.CLEAN]

The prosecution rests. The defence may speak, however I must remind you that the court of public opinion has already found you guilty and that anything you say may be given in evidence...

The court hereby judicially notices Doug's facebook videos

 

[MR.CLEAN]

I think he's using imperial tools: IIUC, if whatever you're clamping is measured in inches then you clamp it in a vise, whereas metric items are clamped in vices.

Depends on their colo(u)r

 

[WhoaTed]

Lol. So in your world does vice/vise rhyme with advice or advise?

Welcome to the English language, is this your first time visiting? 😜

 

[WhoaTed]

Vise it is. But railing with clamps is the preferred tooling. He really needs an anvil.

Why, so he can fuck that up too?

Oops sorry, I forgot that you’ve got that covered.

 

[SPatton]

See Post 5013.

Let's try again:
Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

Now...
Are you feigning ignorance of the SV Seeker project? I'll give you this one- No, you are not. However, this is insufficient: ignorance, as they say, is no defence.
Are you maintaining a pretence of civility and sincerity? Yes, you are.
Are you relentlessly requesting evidence for claims? Yes, you are
Are those claims tangential to the topic or previously addressed? Yes, they are.

Now, it is claimed that you have a legal background. I have to admit I remain sceptical about that but if you do, then you must surely have the ability to read and understand the above.

The prosecution rests. The defence may speak, however I must remind you that the court of public opinion has already found you guilty and that anything you say may be given in evidence...

I'd also like to take this opportunity to refer you to my earlier advice in the post referenced above and request that you kindly Fuck Off.

I'm not doing any part of your definition of sealioning. Your claim that I meet that definition falls flat on its face.

I am not "pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence." Someone makes a claim, I ask them for evidence of that claim. One time. I make one request. I don't make multiple requests. I don't pursue them.

If you think me being civil and sincere is a pretense for something else, then that would be a claim that you would need to show evidence for. So far you have simply asserted that I am being civil and sincere as a pretense for something else (unstated).

The claims I request evidence for aren't tangential to the topic, they are about the topic. They are claims about Doug or Seeker.

 

[SPatton]

That's as much of an argument as I would expect from a mind as brilliant as yours.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

The claims I request evidence for aren't tangential to the topic, they are about the topic. They are claims about Doug or Seeker.

You are tangential to the topic. You know nothing, you offer nothing, and you were identified as what you are almost immediately upon your arrival. Fuck off or shut up and learn something.

 

[SPatton]

You are tangential to the topic. You know nothing, you offer nothing, and you were identified as what you are almost immediately upon your arrival. Fuck off or shut up and learn something.

What is that exactly?

 

[Grrr...]

I see the sealion is still barking.