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Israel Hands

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not sure whether this reddit gem was posted before - a fortune-teller's view of seeker

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Jud - s/v Sputnik

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looks suspiciously like a light pole

Technically known in the electrical field as a “lamp standard” - which makes it sounds very official to the layperson. Almost like it would work for a mast...but, yeah, no.

Doug has tried to become a boatbuilder for 15 years now.

Based on the pics of the shower plumbing someone posted just up thread a little ways, a few days ago, I would’ve thought he was trying to apprentice as a plumber’s helper (and not getting very far with it)
 

Sail4beer

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The outside diameters are different, so it might be inserted like a sleeve, except that the alignment is cockeyed looking at the stub. Doesn't appear to have much cross sectional area in the weld. Is there some element of structural integrity that I am missing?
Look at the welding job at the base of the mast. Doug, or someone else, ran a grinder horizontally around the flange to clean up the weld for some reason and ate into the spar just above the weld line. That’s not a good idea if the spar comes under heavy compression and flex simultaneously.
 

Voiled

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Look at the welding job at the base of the mast. Doug, or someone else, ran a grinder horizontally around the flange to clean up the weld for some reason and ate into the spar just above the weld line. That’s not a good idea if the spar comes under heavy compression and flex simultaneously.
It was one of the few jobs in the last couple of months he did without assistance.
 

Autonomous

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Similar to Doug, my first build was a disaster due to free/cheap/crappy plans.
Doug, however, did not learn from his disastrous super deep vee + emergency sponsons skiff build experience and continued use of the same quack to draw up his big boat.

Then he got creative.

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Israel Hands

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The reddit gang are convinced that Doug is dumping raw sewage overboard. They say that there has never been any indication that holding tank effluent is being transported anywhere. Is he dumping that bucket in the lake?
 

Jud - s/v Sputnik

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Nobody thinks he isn't. And I doubt anyone believes he is disposing of his black water tank content in ways he should. But let's not spill that part of the discussion this way.

Those good ol’ boys chew through a LOT of donuts and BBQ. (Lotsa full tummies and smiles all ‘round. I don’t think they’ve got a sprout garden going, and veggie hydroponics on board, although with a boat that size it would make sense.) It’s all going *somewhere* with a lot of holding capacity.

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Sail4beer

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That pic up thread of him “swimming” was him discharging his bowels into the River. There’s no other reason for him to be enjoying himself that much.
 
Like so many of these nitwits, Doug is arguably anti-science in that he disdains the body of knowledge that he could leverage to his advantage. They think themselves free thinkers as they "do their own research" but ultimately reach wrong conclusions due to their lack of understanding. Of course anybody trying to helpfully point anything out that doesn't fit their viewpoint is dismissed as a naysayer no matter how experienced.

And yet today there are so many that think and behave this way. It's interesting that this trait wasn't weeded out of the gene pool way back on the savannah. Perhaps it goes hand-in-hand with the ability to believe in a supernatural agent and the survival advantage that enabled.

Man... time for a martini....
 

Fleetwood

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Yep, survival on the savannah depended on doing exactly what your elders told you to do, learnt through generations of trial and error. Otherwise the lion et you (or you died of thirst, etc).
Its only in the past couple of thousand years, maybe 100 generations or so, that enquiring whether there's a better way has been accepted practice, even then (and now) in only a relatively few societies...
 

Sail4beer

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I feel pretty good when I figure something out that was a problem that needed solving. With Doug, he had to sort through a lot of problems he created on his own and the satisfaction he derived from every AHA! moment must have been orgasmic.

And he and crew still crapping over the poop deck
 

Diarmuid

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Like so many of these nitwits, Doug is arguably anti-science in that he disdains the body of knowledge that he could leverage to his advantage. They think themselves free thinkers as they "do their own research" but ultimately reach wrong conclusions due to their lack of understanding. Of course anybody trying to helpfully point anything out that doesn't fit their viewpoint is dismissed as a naysayer no matter how experienced.

And yet today there are so many that think and behave this way. It's interesting that this trait wasn't weeded out of the gene pool way back on the savannah. Perhaps it goes hand-in-hand with the ability to believe in a supernatural agent and the survival advantage that enabled.

Man... time for a martini....
Contrarianism has an important role in Game Theory. And investing -- the Big Short is the textbook example of studying what others are doing, then making an opposite play because you think you know something the others don't (e.g., CDOs are wildly overpriced relative to their real asset value.) If we view social media as a sort of stock exchange where eyeballs (or engagement) is the currency, contrarianism within a structured economy can drive engagement and skim eyeball profit. We are talking about Doug right now, meaning Doug is capturing engagement.


From which:

We can now return to the concept of the In-Group Contrarian (hereafter IGC). Anyone who has observed social media platforms, especially Twitter, will know the type. This is the person who, precisely when mimetic snowballing is in progress, attempts to apply the brakes. What’s important is that this figure is not simply an outsider to the group, in which case they could probably be ignored, but instead claims to share the group’s goals, beliefs, etc and merely objects to some aspect of this manifestation of them. The appearance of this figure is as predictable as the mimetic snowballing itself.
 

Leeroy Jenkins

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From the same article

When people participate in pile-ons, share viral hashtags, and so on, there’s a deeper desire at work: a desire for the reaffirmation of our identity by fusing with a larger group.
 


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