Sydney 38 in Annapolis

Thisnametaken

Thisnametaken

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Parma said:
Really!? I wondered about that. If that is the same boat then I originally looked at it when it was 180k. Someone named Robin.

Could be worth 100k, depends on how it's been maintained.
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Sounds about right.  Posted on Lat 38:








38-FT SYDNEY 38, 2002  
Monterey $105,000 

Big 38-ft yacht, very competitive racer, Bluewater or buoy. Could be fast, fun cruiser. Always kept in excellent racing condition. Full sail inventory, all systems in good condition. One owner.
Email (831) 809-7973  
06/03/2019




 
terrafirma

terrafirma

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Forget the advertised price. It's irrelevant. The price is what the seller ends up accepting and anyone wanting to buy this boat wouldn't pay more than $90k IMO. The colour and lack of detailed photos suggest the seller hasn't a clue so he's put a price he wants as opposed to what the market value is like the boat above for $105k. As to the Farr 40OD vs Sydney 38 argument they are 2 different animals. The Farr 40 is not built to do serious Ocean Racing the construction is simply not there. It also doesn't have any cruising capability and is more of a flat out race boat. The Sydney 36 appeals to both worlds, some racing of any description and cruising hence the increase in value. (IMO)

 
float drop

float drop

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terrafirma said:
Forget the advertised price. It's irrelevant. The price is what the seller ends up accepting and anyone wanting to buy this boat wouldn't pay more than $90k IMO. The colour and lack of detailed photos suggest the seller hasn't a clue so he's put a price he wants as opposed to what the market value is like the boat above for $105k. As to the Farr 40OD vs Sydney 38 argument they are 2 different animals. The Farr 40 is not built to do serious Ocean Racing the construction is simply not there. It also doesn't have any cruising capability and is more of a flat out race boat. The Sydney 36 appeals to both worlds, some racing of any description and cruising hence the increase in value. (IMO)
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That's about 180K in Aussie$, "tell him he's dreaming"  https://images.app.goo.gl/iWQok6nFYmV23bXb9

You can have mine for that, and its got a wheel.

 
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Livia

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Last time I looked there where no Sydney 38s listed for sale in Oz.

Lately I have been getting cold calls asking me if I want to sell.

Supply and demand.

Changes over time.

 
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hoppy

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Last time I looked there where no Sydney 38s listed for sale in Oz.

Lately I have been getting cold calls asking me if I want to sell.

Supply and demand.

Changes over time.
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Hasn't been one listed all year.

 
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vtsail

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voodoochile said:
Rates 30 phrf, SA/Disp is around 25 vs. 33 for the F40.  Performance - https://www.yachtscoring.com/yacht_results.cfm?Yacht_ID=133110 .  Wouldn't want a Carrol F40, but there are some Waterline and DK built boats.  
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To be fair, I don't think the performance potential of the boat is done much justice by the referenced results.  My understanding is that this was a new program and they were still figuring out how to make the boat go fast.  Every time I saw the boat on the docks it looked to be well prepped.  I think with the right crew you could make this boat go.

 
d'ranger

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I believe it was originally Serenissma from Chicago that moved east a few years ago.  It sat for a couple of years on the hard before moving to MD.  Repainted in Annapolis. Hull was originally white.
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If so, that boat and the crew were top notch. Years ago but sailing with them was awesome. 

 
Parma

Parma

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voodoochile said:
Rates 30 phrf, SA/Disp is around 25 vs. 33 for the F40.  Performance - https://www.yachtscoring.com/yacht_results.cfm?Yacht_ID=133110 .  Wouldn't want a Carrol F40, but there are some Waterline and DK built boats.  
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vtsail said:
To be fair, I don't think the performance potential of the boat is done much justice by the referenced results.  My understanding is that this was a new program and they were still figuring out how to make the boat go fast.  Every time I saw the boat on the docks it looked to be well prepped.  I think with the right crew you could make this boat go.
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At first blush it might well be a ratings issue where how a boat rates & measures against the local fleet is really important and varies from area to area.

I would love a Sydney 38. Oh wait, no I wouldn't. Not at 30

 
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trimfast

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So with this boat being nice or crackpipe deal, what about the two 125s for sale in the classifieds for over $315k?

 
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Robin

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This 38 was indeed Serenissima and it was well maintained by me and my team.  I know for a fact that there were both sail upgrades, good maintenance by Jones and team, electronics etc (in addition to the paint job and name change).   The 38 is a great boat, competitive and very well built.  I regret not owning her today.  

Robin

 
Parma

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Robin said:
This 38 was indeed Serenissima and it was well maintained by me and my team.  I know for a fact that there were both sail upgrades, good maintenance by Jones and team, electronics etc (in addition to the paint job and name change).   The 38 is a great boat, competitive and very well built.  I regret not owning her today.  

Robin
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How would this boat do with a sprit & assymetrics?

 
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