Sydney to Hobart 2017

[PIL66 - XL2]

There are many angles of the WO and Comanche's port / Starboard in that segment..... The helichopper ones are the most damning but all make me shake my head considering the level these people should be at

 

[trt131]

Pil, you're not just a little biased are you.

 

[duncan (the other one)]

5 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

This is a 25min behind the scenes number. Odd how they produce these so long after the event.

@9:12 - Interesting. Comanche running with vang disconnected? 

 

[Recidivist]

There are many angles of the WO and Comanche's port / Starboard in that segment..... The helichopper ones are the most damning but all make me shake my head considering the level these people should be at

C'mon PIL, the complete responsibility lies at the feet of JC and JS for protesting - everyone knows mates don't do that!

 

[MPH]

@9:12 - Interesting. Comanche running with vang disconnected? 

Full-length traveler can lessen the need for a boom vang at times. Figure they're sailing with plenty of twist in that config as well..

 

[duncan (the other one)]

Full-length traveler can lessen the need for a boom vang at times. Figure they're sailing with plenty of twist in that config as well..

yeh -- just surprised to see that setup on something so HUGE.

Looking more closely at other shots -- they seem to rarely run one now?  I see other shots where there's a strop, but no pressure in it.  Maybe they learn't they don't need it.

I guess main never gets eased more than to the rail, then after that its dump time due to the angle of heel she runs (if they eased more, it'd be boom busting in the water time)

 

[Frogman56]

AWA never really > 90.....and 2 or more sails in front of the main = no vang!

And structurally, the vang is inefficient - no vang, boom weight reduced by ~ 40 % or so

 

[duncan (the other one)]

AWA never really > 90.....and 2 or more sails in front of the main = no vang!

And structurally, the vang is inefficient - no vang, boom weight reduced by ~ 40 % or so

She used to be rigged for a vang -- so the boom is probably built for it.

But I agree -- a big zero up front means the main is always sheeted in.

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

@9:12 - Interesting. Comanche running with vang disconnected? 

The VO 70 is the same.... it gets used in the harbour for twilights occasionally 

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

Comanche has a big top down furling A4 that was not on display in that video or indeed ever in this race. I wonder if they found it was too round to be useful offshore or if it was dropped off the boat for rating/weight reasons. The "Keef!" sail

PIL...... I know we don't deserve it... but... I'm curious. 

Comanche ran with an A3 and then a O

 

[jackolantern]

Comanche ran with an A3 and then a O

Thanks, that's what I thought. My guess is the "Keef" sail is likely too inefficient at the TWS they saw during the race. For sure it's a deeper running sail but maybe they're so bow up in those conditions with such a high AWA despite their depth that the round sail is useless. For sure WOXI was flying a rounder sail than Comanche in the same conditions. 

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

The "Keef" sail... that's very good.. like looking in the mirror

 

[DickDastardly]

Comanche ran with an A3 and then a O

So Keef is an A4 or the A3?

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

Not sure but I don't think Keef exists any more... old pic

 

[SCANAS]

I don't think Keef exists any more... old pic

Oh no, Short life!

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

Oh no, Short life!

They're cheap little thangs

 

[SCANAS]

They're cheap little thangs

For JC maybe  

 

[duncan (the other one)]

there was a Keef0 at some point, too.

 

[shaggybaxter]

The VO 70 is the same.... it gets used in the harbour for twilights occasionally 

We don't use our vang much either unless its pretty lumpy or near ddw. Mine acts more like a gybe preventer really than a vang. 

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

We don't use our vang much either unless its pretty lumpy or near ddw. Mine acts more like a gybe preventer really than a vang. 

Has anyone ever told you that you have a fat ass....... ?

I love your boat