Sydney to Hobart 2019

trt131

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Usually a part 2 rule is DSQ.  But I agree it seems excessive for that incident, it would be better to leave the time penalty to the Int Jury as they have far more experience at this than having a set penalty.

 
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animeproblem

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^This, big time, & back to 2017, Oats might have got that record & LH.

Curiously I no longer find myself in the "Oats hater camp" they did a bang up job putting things back together after Cabbage Tree & even after falling back for a while managed 3rd for LH, I know it's a matter of money to throw, but still good on them.

 

Livia

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Can someone send me a link to them guts of the story regarding Royal Queensland and a protest or give me the nutshell version?
Which incident do you want there are quite a few now

the rumble in rocky port and starboard and bar fight

the Catherine Mary port and starboard and protest

the Muppett complaint

the Qld IRC States exclusion protest

the Keppel exclusion protest and appeal

So it might take you a while

Sorry edit forgot the rrs 69 that started but never completed as the juries where not given an indemnity for legal fees

then they are the numerous club disciplinary hearing and appeals

and it will not end anytime soon

 
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shanghaisailor

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I don’t care but 2 hours for what was at best a 2 minute infraction inside the heads - no wonder the S2H is fucked. Run someone up the arse at the start so they don’t even get past the start line and no foul!
Some people are so dumb!

Checkout the dictionary for definition of penalty. "a punishment for breaking a rule, law or contract.

A 2 minute "penalty" for wrongly saving 2 minutes is NOT a penalty. If people (or a boat) does not suffer a greater loss than they saved it is meaningless.

A meaningless penalty will just mean people keep breaking the rules.

If the S2H is wrong in any way it is the SI's allowing an alternative penalty. Normally (where SI's don't alter the standard rules) the alternative penalty is 2 complete turns - the ubiquitous '720' which they didn't do.

The International Jury found (it's in the facts found) that Envy Scooters held her course on port tack causing the right of way boat to have to take avoiding action, a clear breech of RRS10 - they can thank the SI's they hadn't just wasted 2 days  of racing.

Ask Santa for a Rule Book & Case book -it will arrive just in time for the next S2H

 

animeproblem

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Some people are so dumb!

Checkout the dictionary for definition of penalty. "a punishment for breaking a rule, law or contract.

A 2 minute "penalty" for wrongly saving 2 minutes is NOT a penalty. If people (or a boat) does not suffer a greater loss than they saved it is meaningless.

A meaningless penalty will just mean people keep breaking the rules.

If the S2H is wrong in any way it is the SI's allowing an alternative penalty. Normally (where SI's don't alter the standard rules) the alternative penalty is 2 complete turns - the ubiquitous '720' which they didn't do.

The International Jury found (it's in the facts found) that Envy Scooters held her course on port tack causing the right of way boat to have to take avoiding action, a clear breech of RRS10 - they can thank the SI's they hadn't just wasted 2 days  of racing.

Ask Santa for a Rule Book & Case book -it will arrive just in time for the next S2H
Nail head, meet HAMMER, if the rules have no teeth why bother with rules

 

dreadom

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Congratulations to Pierre Gal and the crew of Mistral. This amazingly fast Lombard 34 and it’s sail wardrobe was built by Pierre at his sail loft in Coffs Harbour.  1st in their IRC division for the B2G, S2GC and now line honours and a 2nd on handicap in the S2H. What a year!

 
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