Sydney to Hobart 2019

SCANAS

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Older fast boats and some very new wide boat which are having trouble natching earlier numbers

not sure it is not just Australia as a pogo 1250 failed when measured here 
SYD 39CR also failed.

Which recent changes are you referring to?
ORCI can also change their allowances for values to whatever they think it should be.

As their hull file only uses what, 3 or 4 hours of measurements. No knowledge of where weight in the keel is etc they obviously can’t replicate the level of detail required to get accuracy so they look at their other designs & work it out with plenty of caution for them. 

To note an actual pull down to 115 with two cranes is also no guarantee of entry. It’s all about the ORCI spreadsheet! Which is why a boat like a POGO which has actually has 129 AVS Shaggy? Certified by some blokes who build a few offshore racing boats (POGO) isn’t accepted in lieu of ORCI stability. 

As before. This is no reflection on CYCA they just need to you to satisfy the entry which is fair. 

 

pulpit

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First of all, I’m very glad Phil and crew are all safe. I hope the Boat can be recovered and be sailing again soon. 

Now 

If we look on the bright side of this years Hobart, Phil and crew have shown the cyc that rescuing a crew from a multi is easier than a mono.

So Pass, first safety test complete for the multihull’s

So what safety test is next before the CYC let multi’s do the Hobart ?

Pulpit

 

DickDastardly

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First of all, I’m very glad Phil and crew are all safe. I hope the Boat can be recovered and be sailing again soon. 

Now 

If we look on the bright side of this years Hobart, Phil and crew have shown the cyc that rescuing a crew from a multi is easier than a mono.

So Pass, first safety test complete for the multihull’s

So what safety test is next before the CYC let multi’s do the Hobart ?

Pulpit
Very glad all are OK.

I think the naysayers at the CYCA would say that Pil has done a fine job of demonstrating why multis in S2H are a bad idea, sadly. The argument might go: "Yes it's easy to rescue crew from a multi, just as well cos it happens so much more often..."  It would also be an easy shot to point out that no boats from the concurrent Flinders Islet race required rescue.

BTW, I'm not sure it is inherent;y easier rescuing crew from a multi, especially if any are trapped under the boat tangled up in something (an unlikely scenario but it happened to Bart)

 

Headntac

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And he had the and most precisely timed port tack start of his career...at full noise...pushing it

put slingsby to shame he would..

 
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hoppy

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BTW, I'm not sure it is inherent;y easier rescuing crew from a multi, especially if any are trapped under the boat tangled up in something (an unlikely scenario but it happened to Bart)
If the multi has turned turtle and everyone is ok, then a heli rescue will be much easier with a more steady wide platform and no rig than with a mono.

 

pulpit

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Very glad all are OK.

I think the naysayers at the CYCA would say that Pil has done a fine job of demonstrating why multis in S2H are a bad idea, sadly. The argument might go: "Yes it's easy to rescue crew from a multi, just as well cos it happens so much more often..."  It would also be an easy shot to point out that no boats from the concurrent Flinders Islet race required rescue.

BTW, I'm not sure it is inherent;y easier rescuing crew from a multi, especially if any are trapped under the boat tangled up in something (an unlikely scenario but it happened to Bart)


:lol:  Pulpit, do you work in political media?  That's terrific spin right there! Well done.  :lol:
Dick, 

The chances of multi’s being able to sail the official Sydney to Hobart in the foreseeable future is non existence and it doesn’t matter what most people say to try to include them. The only way multi’s will race the official Hobart is if a major sponsor tells the CYC that they have to include them or all of the top players / power brokers buy a multihull to race for line honours. It’s just not going to happen. 

As far as the multihull owners are concerned, until they have owners saying they want to race more do a Hobart and have number to support their claim for inclusion in the Hobart the CYC will not include them. 

Rescuing crews from upturned multi’s ? Like all boats they have there issues and Bart’s death shows that even with the best support and rescue boats around that accidents can and do happen and people can be killed. RIP Bart.

Dick, I’m really glad that phil and his crew are all safe and I hope they can salvage the boat and it can sail again under Phil’s ownership. All I was doing was poking fun at the CYC 

If you read what Recidivist posted you can see I was just having a little fun at the CYC’s expense and not at phil or his crew. 

Pulpit

 

DickDastardly

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Dick, 

The chances of multi’s being able to sail the official Sydney to Hobart in the foreseeable future is non existence and it doesn’t matter what most people say to try to include them. The only way multi’s will race the official Hobart is if a major sponsor tells the CYC that they have to include them or all of the top players / power brokers buy a multihull to race for line honours. It’s just not going to happen. 

As far as the multihull owners are concerned, until they have owners saying they want to race more do a Hobart and have number to support their claim for inclusion in the Hobart the CYC will not include them. 

Rescuing crews from upturned multi’s ? Like all boats they have there issues and Bart’s death shows that even with the best support and rescue boats around that accidents can and do happen and people can be killed. RIP Bart.

Dick, I’m really glad that phil and his crew are all safe and I hope they can salvage the boat and it can sail again under Phil’s ownership. All I was doing was poking fun at the CYC 

If you read what Recidivist posted you can see I was just having a little fun at the CYC’s expense and not at phil or his crew. 

Pulpit
Wasn’t criticising. Just making the point that the multi-hater voices in the CYC will seize on  any opportunity. 

 

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My pleasure.

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