Sydney to Hobart 2019
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Swimsailor
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Your Mom
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Credit where credit is due... Go Scally and Infotrack for the 1-2!
(Regarding the protest... I saw that flag too... but I sure as hell hope they didn't do turns... that tack wasn't too close).
(Regarding the protest... I saw that flag too... but I sure as hell hope they didn't do turns... that tack wasn't too close).
LionessRacing
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Commanche winding up, strong air ahead and a fatter angle, with a forecast that's hot all the way up the Derwent.
< 18 hrs and it should be over, Dawn finish if they are slow
< 18 hrs and it should be over, Dawn finish if they are slow
sure looked close, does that mean they wait until hobart to find out? thats risky considering.
LionessRacing
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Question will be if having been publicly thrashed up course by the TP52's and R/P 60's they still want to go to the room, when the consensus is that they were cleanly lee-bowed.
terrafirma
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My money was on Oats and BJ but I'd love Comanche or Scallywag to win. If the Indian get's some heat for the trip home she will be hard to beat.
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r22tahoe
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Forward-facing camera on WOXI had Scallywag squarely in their track; I'd be the last person to stand up for MR, but seemed obvious to me that WOXI had to maneuver to keep clear. How is that not a foul?
Sheetinmaxout
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Not what I saw on the live footage. WO never had to alter course to avoid. SW was clear ahead and below. Almost perfect lee-bow.
LionessRacing
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Hand Held Camera was not "forward facing", it had an angle..
If WOXI did not have to start avoiding before SW had competed her tack it's clean.
that's why a few years back when WOXI tacked ahead of Commanche, they had to throw wheel before WOXI had completed tack. And datalog from instruments supported that they had held their course (were accused of hunting) till they made emergency avoidance.
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Sheetinmaxout
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Yep, my money is on Stan heading up to get to the new breeze, before reaching off with the pressure, to smoke the fleet (until the next re-start)
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shanghaisailor
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If the other boat is nice enough to drop the anchor and wait for you ;-)
Just having fun.
It was cool to see our old boat in the pre-start with the old logo'd mainsail up (around -7.20or so) Well it is a low mileage 3Di Raw. More coverage than she got last time on the harbour.
I don't think the jury would thank them for wasting their time if they did, and the commentator calling "You can't do that, that was too close" - let his adrenaline run away with his mouth. You can't make a call before the incident is complete.
Scallywag on port (RRS10) went into a tack (RRS13) WOXI continued and started to tack once Scallywag was almost down to close hauled with at least 3-4 m lateral(windward leeward) separation. So tack complete and still gave WOXI room to keep clear. Completely different from 2017 where WOXI tacked right onto Comanche's line.
Richo clearly quite calm and any visit to the room would have been a short one. Very good audio coming from the boat with one word missing "Protest" therefore invalid protest.
The boats clearly wanted the left side of the course and Scallywag executed what looked like a perfect lee-bow tack which meant they were able to stay left and their upwash would have meant that WOXI couldn't live there so they had to (from a tactical point of view, not collision avoidance) tack away. On that point, right choice from WOXI
Could WOXI have prevented or defended the action?
Yes if, when Scallywag tacked to port or soon after, they (WOXI) went bow down a few degrees - only a few that wasn't noticeable from the other boat - and then held their course Scallywag would still have to avoid but they would likely have attempted the lee bow earlier. As soon as they went into their tack Richo could bring the boat back onto close hauled with enough separation to roll Scallywag. But that would have meant thinking ahead and strategically.
All this is just my view but I have seen that done on multiple occasions and completely within the rules. In fact done it myself
RRS 13 "After passing head to wind, she shall keep clear of other boats until she is on a close hauled course." Then read the definition for 'keep clear'
I don't deny it was close but in my view having watched the playback half a dozen times, not TOO close.
Just Sayin'
& Compliments of the season to all.
terrafirma
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Looked like a close leebow to me at the time. I'm sure Ricco would protest if he thought it was a foul? It maybe irrelevant for the time being. Wild Oats would need to finish second to Scally and then lodge a protest. If Wild Oats isn't going to win LH I can't see anything happening IMO
