Panoramix
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True but rig, engine and sails are more per pound. Also bottom paint is not entirely per foot as a heavy boat will have more immersed area.
Talk me out of buying this Santa Cruz 50
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Jud - s/v Sputnik
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As are running rigging, standing rigging and sail inventory (if these are needing replacement) - all “by the foot”.
There is one SC50 I would buy if it ever came up for sale, as I know the owner, who’s had it since new and and has done extensive and very intelligent upgrades/rebuilds over the years. I’d happily pay over $100k for it because it’s perfect. (That boat’s #4 jib costs about much as my main, but it could also just be that they’re very good sails.)
One thing, though - the 2:1 purchase on the main halyard had me not liking all the crazy long line in the cockpit —the halyard was twice as long as normal? - but I guess that’s just big boat sailing?
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Lots of benefits to 2:1. Easier to raise, less mast compression. At the cost of the extra tail
maxstaylock
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With Bitcoin, you can afford it. If you don't buy this boat, you are a liberal pussy.
Seriously, start small, small mistakes are better than big ones. This boat will cost someone a marriage and a house.
Seriously, start small, small mistakes are better than big ones. This boat will cost someone a marriage and a house.
Kolibri
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Just think....this could be you. Oh wait, I'm supposed to talk you out of buying a Santa Cruz 50.
zenmasterfred
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Go for it, you can't take it with you and you can go upwind (or close to it) on the SC50, move the jib leads out and reduce sail. I have boat envy. My ideal boat would be a SC 52 but a bit out of my price range. I realize a lot different than the 50, have sailed both.
dylan winter
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saboteer
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Man I miss Horizon, that was a fun race. That's me standing in the middle of the cockpit, white hat, about to work the pedestal for grinding. That boat was a 110/100. The owner really loved her.
Kolibri
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Very cool. I was on a power boat owned by a friend who knows the owner of Horizon well. Great day for shooting photos!
saboteer
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You must be talking about Tom. Great guy, sailed many races on Horizon and other local boats with him. It was a great day, pretty tame for the channel though. I remember all the big talk of wind and waves on the way in and upon arrival it was light and calm. Still it was great to see the island and get to those Mai Tai's.
Kolibri
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how about this.
A guy who I have raced with for the last few years just called me this weekend to tell me how he was pissed because he just flew out to the West coast to see that boat with a boat builder friend who runs a reputable yard. Paid to have the boat hauled and took but a few minutes to determine it was not worth it.
Suffice to say he has substantially more budget than you. Now he wanted to make it race again, but the condition of the bottom was a deal breaker, so he flew home empty handed but for the receipt of having it hauled.
Take it for what you will, an experienced owner who knows how to acquire boats, fix them up, make them fast and sell them later, took a hard pass after a few minutes of seeing the bottom.
Face it, sometimes when you lift her skirt, you know its better to cut bait and run like hell.
A guy who I have raced with for the last few years just called me this weekend to tell me how he was pissed because he just flew out to the West coast to see that boat with a boat builder friend who runs a reputable yard. Paid to have the boat hauled and took but a few minutes to determine it was not worth it.
Suffice to say he has substantially more budget than you. Now he wanted to make it race again, but the condition of the bottom was a deal breaker, so he flew home empty handed but for the receipt of having it hauled.
Take it for what you will, an experienced owner who knows how to acquire boats, fix them up, make them fast and sell them later, took a hard pass after a few minutes of seeing the bottom.
Face it, sometimes when you lift her skirt, you know its better to cut bait and run like hell.
IStream
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Jud - s/v Sputnik
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Well, but you know you’d lower your scruples and hit it if it was cheap enough.
But, seriously, sounds like a bargaining chip, depending on the cost to have them repaired?
DRP
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Do a little research on the broker... oh, here let me help you:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-10-18-fi-3441-story.html
I was loyal customer. Purchased 3 boats over the years from him and ended up with a bunch of grief on the last one.
Run and don't look back.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-10-18-fi-3441-story.html
I was loyal customer. Purchased 3 boats over the years from him and ended up with a bunch of grief on the last one.
Run and don't look back.
Easy - are you hoping for female companionship on your cruise? This boat will guarantee you go stag....
Jud - s/v Sputnik
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All of the above is telling me that the OP might end up with a boat that can grill steaks on the barbie, carry a SUP (or two), and have the RIB that takes other cruisers in the anchorage out to the reef to fish and snorkel
mckenzie.keith
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This is helping for sure. I did know that it was in contract then out again because of blisters. I have not seen pictures yet. They have pictures, though. I think it was listed at 94k, and now it is listed at 70k. So there is some discount there. But I am listening to you. This is weighing on my mind.
mckenzie.keith
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mckenzie.keith
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I am married with one kid. But I am pretty sure my non-sailing wife won't like that boat. I haven't mentioned it to her yet. I hear what you are saying loud and clear...
