Team American Magic

[shebeen]

That is what the rumors said that Tom was responsible for the mode changes that increased their speed.

Tom has a amazing drive to win. In the first part he talks about how he and his coach knew there was some variation in the setups of one design boats he sailed. They got a hold of every combination of variation and sailed them until he optimized the modes on how to sail each variation. He then would measure the boat that was assigned to him for the regatta and knew exactly how to sail it as fast as possible.

I might have heard it differently, thought this intervention came way before the match but could be wrong.

My other takeaway was how much he would rather be on an Australian team, but this will do for now!

Also dropped in that during AC36 he had serious FOMO, and followed it all, read all the FORUMS too.
So if you're reading this, g'day Tom

 

[Stingray~]

I might have heard it differently, thought this intervention came way before the match but could be wrong.

The upwind foiling is what swung it in SF - just as he described. Spot on, on the rest.

 

[Monkey]

The upwind foiling is what swung it in SF - just as he described. Spot on, on the rest.

It’s always pretty cool when pure talent outsmarts the silly polars.

 

[terrafirma]

It’s always pretty cool when pure talent outsmarts the silly polars.

So true.!

 

[JALhazmat]

Physics.. but yeah it was talent. 😉

I think he also put a large portion of the success at Russel’s door stating that there were at least nine separate decisions that Russel took each of which made the boat faster

 

[cinnr]

Wish we could get his unfiltered thoughts on the state of AM and how to make AM faster.

 

[shebeen]

The upwind foiling is what swung it in SF - just as he described. Spot on, on the rest.

might need to listen to it again, but it seemed to me that upwind foiling was something Tom was pushing for way before the match. and Russel backed him to keep trying for it.

because it only came halfway during the match was that they were able to get going over 22kts hullspeed using all the other interventions.

but i could be wrong.

either way doesn't really matter, was new insight for me.

 

[terrafirma]

might need to listen to it again, but it seemed to me that upwind foiling was something Tom was pushing for way before the match. and Russel backed him to keep trying for it.

because it only came halfway during the match was that they were able to get going over 22kts hullspeed using all the other interventions.

but i could be wrong.

either way doesn't really matter, was new insight for me.

I got the impression it happened whilst they were already racing. Tom was new to the team and apparently wasn't sailing with them very early on. So with that in mind I think Tom refers to his suggestion during the interview and goes on to say (To the designers) we could bear away to get the boat skimming/foiling and then head up once they were up.

 

[shebeen]

I got the impression it happened whilst they were already racing. Tom was new to the team and apparently wasn't sailing with them very early on. So with that in mind I think Tom refers to his suggestion during the interview and goes on to say (To the designers) we could bear away to get the boat skimming/foiling and then head up once they were up.

one of us is right, could well be you!

 

[shebeen]

one of us is right, could well be you!

can report it is in the pod, about minute 10 of episode 4 (part 2).
Was about 6 months before the match when the upwind foiling thing was raised by Tom "arguing with these super smart designers".

he does then a talk more about Russel getting involved during the match, putting all his other CEO/event management stuff aside.

 

[Stingray~]

Perception and reality – the two imposters of any America’s Cup campaign were on display out in Pensacola yesterday. Headlines could scream ‘capsize’ – and with Patriot we’ve been there spectacularly before – but the reality is that the team had an almost perfect day in terms of manoeuvres before hitting debris in Pensacola Bay, stalling and plopping over. Roll-overs are meat and potatoes to the crews in this America’s Cup and the low-speed, downspeed ones are more of an inconvenience than catastrophe – dramatic as they look to the outside world.

To address the dramatic first, Terry Hutchinson, Skipper and President of Sailing Operations at the New York Yacht Club American Magic syndicate explained: “They were going upwind on starboard tack and they hit a submerged board. As we know here in Pensacola when it rains a lot, things flow out of the rivers and they basically hit a ‘log’ in the water, it stalled the boat and the boat rolled over to windward so no harm to anybody, Patriot is upright and coming back in and we’ll haul her out and get her ready to go out again tomorrow.”

 

[cinnr]

go out again tomorrow

I'm uncomfortable with how Terry downplays the rollover. It had a "nothing to see here" feel to it. But the proof I guess is if they really do go right back out again the next day...

 

[Stingray~]

I'm uncomfortable with how Terry downplays the rollover. It had a "nothing to see here" feel to it. But the proof I guess is if they really do go right back out again the next day...

Had the same thought since in all likelihood it was an impact to something important. And if it was a 'log' well... yikes!

 

[ChairborneRanger]

Had the same thought since in all likelihood it was an impact to something important. And if it was a 'log' well... yikes!

It can't have been a log. You don't hit something hard and come away with no damage. I think they lost the rudder and did one of those INEOS spins we saw early in the AC36 cycle.

 

[Stingray~]

It can't have been a log. You don't hit something hard and come away with no damage. I think they lost the rudder and did one of those INEOS spins we saw early in the AC36 cycle.

Being as how fresh the conditions were, yes that's a good guess. It was a new rudder too.

 

[breezie]

It can't have been a log. You don't hit something hard and come away with no damage. I think they lost the rudder and did one of those INEOS spins we saw early in the AC36 cycle.

Yes I could imagine a situation where hit a log is plausible but it is a very unlikely scenario

 

[buckdouger]

Those foils are steel, a bit of floating 4x4 or something wouldn't do much damage, but it could stall the flow, even if it wasn't a direct hit, so it seems plausible enough.

 

[The_Alchemist]

It can't have been a log. You don't hit something hard and come away with no damage. I think they lost the rudder and did one of those INEOS spins we saw early in the AC36 cycle.

Why would he lie about that? He could just as easily have said if there was damage. By the way they are sailing again today.

 

[The_Alchemist]

What about the new rudder;

Old rudder;

 

[Monkey]

What about the new rudder;
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Old rudder;

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Interesting. It’s a similar banana shape to ETNZ’s foil on their test boat. Since it showed up way too fast to be copying, it appears something is leading these teams to curved foils.