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JALhazmat

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Well at this rate old mate better warm up his Mrs stunt cock... ;-)

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NeedAClew

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The boat is awesome; the designers and builders, shore team, crew to be commended. 

But in order to maintain enthusiasm, I have to avoid looking too closely at the invited NYYC crowd in the video. 

 
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Rennmaus

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The boat is awesome; the designers and builders, shore team, crew to be commended. 

But in order to maintain enthusiasm, I have to avoid looking too closely at the invited NYYC crowd in the video. 
Totally.
"Defiant" - what a great name! (Although rather ironic coming from the NYYC.)

 

nuttyrave

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let's hope she fares better than Defiance did for the NNYC back in 1914!
I suppose that the idea is that Boat 1 will be a candidate for the campaign as much as the Defiance was a defence candidate in 1914. Boat 2 might be christened with a name that is more reminiscent of Cup winner like America or Magic...

 
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Rennmaus

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For completeness, here's the presser:
 

DEFIANT, THE U.S. CHALLENGER'S FIRST AC75, IS OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED AND NAMED

Portsmouth, Rhode Island - After an estimated 76,000 combined hours of fabrication and finishing work by the production and shore teams of American Magic, the U.S. Challenger's first AC75 racing boat was officially named and launched on Saturday morning. Named Defiant, the cutting-edge foiling monohull is the first America's Cup class boat built to represent the New York Yacht Club in over 16 years. The boat underwent initial testing on Narragansett Bay earlier in the week.
 
Defiant was constructed at a dedicated facility in Bristol, Rhode Island, the site of America's Cup boatbuilding efforts since the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company's first Cup defender, Vigilant, was launched in 1893. American Magic will continue to train in Rhode Island waters during the fall of 2019 before relocating to Pensacola, Florida for the winter.


About New York Yacht Club American Magic 

Formed in October 2017 by Bella Mente Racing, Quantum Racing and the New York Yacht Club, American Magic represents a joint vision to win the America’s Cup, the highest prize in sailing and the oldest trophy in international sports. American Magic brings together two highly successful racing programs with one of the foremost yacht clubs in the world, united by a campaign to win back the Cup, reconnect the American sailing base with the premier event in the sport and elevate the quality of competitive sailing in the United States. The name, American Magic, is a nod to the New York Yacht Club’s storied America’s Cup history; a combination of the boat the trophy is named for, and the first boat to defend it.

American Magic will develop and support a team that will participate in the America's Cup competition, the Prada Cup and the America's Cup World Series events that lead up to both. American Magic’s Official Innovation Partner is Airbus, along with Team Partner TSI Incorporated. Other partnerships include Official Apparel Sponsor Helly Hansen and Official Control Systems Sponsor Parker Hannifin. American Magic is a recognized 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. www.americanmagic.com 

About the New York Yacht Club 

The New York Yacht Club was founded in 1844 when nine New York yachtsmen met aboard John Cox Stevens' yacht and a year later its original clubhouse was built in Hoboken, N.J. The Club's Annual Regatta was first run in 1845. The Club was the keeper of the America's Cup from 1851 to 1983, and it organized the first transatlantic race in 1866. The Club maintains two exquisite clubhouses, on 44th Street in the heart of New York City, known for its Model Room and extensive nautical library, and Harbour Court in Newport, R.I., which annually hosts some of North America's most prestigious sailing events, including the Annual Regatta, Race Week at Newport presented by Rolex, the Rolex New York Yacht Club Invitational Cup and the Queen's Cup. www.nyyc.org.

 

The_Alchemist

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"If the AM foil design is significantly better than the NZ design" then again, if the NZ design is significantly better than the AM design, AM will not only struggle to win the Americas Cup, but they may not even make the match itself as they will have their work cut out for them just beating Stars + Stripes.
Of course, but since the NZ foils look very similar to foils that AM has already tested on the mule (minus a few little curves on the tip).  It would be save to assume that AM already has data on foils like NZ is using.   

 

NeedAClew

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"If the AM foil design is significantly better than the NZ design" then again, if the NZ design is significantly better than the AM design, AM will not only struggle to win the Americas Cup, but they may not even make the match itself as they will have their work cut out for them just beating Stars + Stripes.
So are you saying that ETNZ is being so inclusive and generous to S+S,  letting them hang on, not just to make the event better by having more challengers, but to:

1.) Get data on an ETNZ type design vs other challengers, especially AM, in the Prada Cup

and/ or

2.) Possible have an ETNZ type design knock out challengers so that ETNZ can defend against an earlier version of itself?

Nice.

 
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Horn Rock

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Quite a bit different to the Kiwi boat aft of the mast with her sunken deck, and much shallower, and narrower ramp. Boom is set very close to the base of the mast.

 
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Stingray~

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May be a dumb question but: Is it possible there are one or more chutes in the foredeck to enable faster sail changes?

 

Forourselves

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So are you saying that ETNZ is being so inclusive and generous to S+S,  letting them hang on, not just to make the event better by having more challengers, but to:

1.) Get data on an ETNZ type design vs other challengers, especially AM, in the Prada Cup

and/ or

2.) Possible have an ETNZ type design knock out challengers so that ETNZ can defend against an earlier version of itself?

Nice.
Nope. I'm saying Stars + Stripes boat (if it eventuates) will be identical to Te Aihe, so if the ETNZ design is significantly better than the AM design, logically the Stars + Stripes design, being identical to the ETNZ design should also be significantly faster, which will mean, AM will first need to beat a significantly better Stars + Stripes design (again, if it eventuates) in order to make the match.

 

Horn Rock

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Defiant_top.jpg

You get a pretty good view of the very snub bow in this top shot - yeah it aint pretty. She carries her beam a long way forward and aft as well.

 
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Forourselves

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Of course, but since the NZ foils look very similar to foils that AM has already tested on the mule (minus a few little curves on the tip).  It would be save to assume that AM already has data on foils like NZ is using.   
Though they haven't seen them in use. Unlike ETNZ who have now seen what the AM foils seemingly can and can't do through the Mule, and now early testing of Defiant.

 

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