Team NYYC

[I14RACER]

So do we know what the final set of foils look like?

They said they are still finalizing them in their interview. I’m guessing we won’t see them for a bit unless needed in this series.

 

[crashtack]

They said they are still finalizing them in their interview. I’m guessing we won’t see them for a bit unless needed in this series.

Seems a bit arrogant to keep their final set in the bag until after the selection series...

 

[pusslicker]

Seems a bit arrogant to keep their final set in the bag until after the selection series...

You've seen the limeys?

 

[Monkey]

Seems a bit arrogant to keep their final set in the bag until after the selection series...

Not at all. They can still change foils before anything really matters in the Prada Cup. Why not keep the good kit hidden as long as possible?

 

[zenmasterfred]

Not at all. They can still change foils before anything really matters in the Prada Cup. Why not keep the good kit hidden as long as possible?

Of course, keep your powder dry if you can!  The purpose is to win the Prada Cup.

 

[crashtack]

Not at all. They can still change foils before anything really matters in the Prada Cup. Why not keep the good kit hidden as long as possible?

Seems like going in with completely new gear in a win-or-swim situation is a ...worrying proposition. It's not like ETNZ is going to have the time to reverse-engineer their foils in the 50 days until the AC, especially considering they've used their 3 set allotment.

 

[WetHog]

Seems like going in with completely new gear in a win-or-swim situation is a ...worrying proposition. It's not like ETNZ is going to have the time to reverse-engineer their foils in the 50 days until the AC, especially considering they've used their 3 set allotment.

All the teams will advance to the Semi’s so it’s not win or swim till then. 

WetHog   h34r:

 

[Forourselves]

I called it weeks ago.

 

[Kate short for Bob]

Ben gave Dean a lesson pre-start.

But what a difference in boat modes/speed/VMG!

 

[Nutta]

Ben gave Dean a lesson pre-start.

But what a difference in boat modes/speed/VMG!

I'm stuck with PJM on radio. They said 4kt VMG advantage to INEOS?? At least in one of the earlier legs.

 

[nroose]

Seems like the right was windier, and INEOS assiduously avoided the left. I don't think there is any way we can know what it would have been like had they had the same breeze. But yeah. A shellacking.

 

[idontwan2know]

Hard to tell anything from the data overlays as they're moving so fast and they never stick on it for more than a few seconds at a time.

The only time we saw them in the same wind/water off the start line Patriot seemed faster.

I think most of the difference was pressure on the favored side of the course and missed laylines that caused them to do a few more tacks.

We shall see as the racing goes on.

 

[nroose]

They also lost the start due to conservative decision making.

 

[pluscount]

I think most of the difference was pressure on the favored side of the course and missed laylines that caused them to do a few more tacks.

Pressure, smessher.  They were either smoked or sandbagging.  Place your bets.

 

[idontwan2know]

They also lost the start due to conservative decision making.

Agreed. They could have timed their start better and throttled up better and probably gotten over the top to claim the right side. Probably a totally different race if they do.

 

[Xlot]

On Italian TV, they’re saying that at least AM’s rudder is made of steel. True?

 

[SoCalSlacker]

Not unreasonable. Carbon has great (strength,stiffness)/weight ratios but steel is still better for (strength/stiffness)/volume plus is much more forgiving in terms of manufacturing for the rudder shapes/sizes in question. Most likely most of the rudders in the fleet are made from both metal and carbon fiber but it wouldnt surprise me if teams had made shorter lead time foils or more likely elevators from pure metal.

 

[MaxHugen]

Not unreasonable. Carbon has great (strength,stiffness)/weight ratios but steel is still better for (strength/stiffness)/volume plus is much more forgiving in terms of manufacturing for the rudder shapes/sizes in question. Most likely most of the rudders in the fleet are made from both metal and carbon fiber but it wouldnt surprise me if teams had made shorter lead time foils or more likely elevators from pure metal.

I recall that ETNZ switched to milled steel boards in AC35 to get sufficient strength for their narrow thin foils.

 

[Kate short for Bob]

I recall that ETNZ switched to milled steel boards in AC35 to get sufficient strength for their narrow thin foils.

Eh?  How do they delaminate?

 

[MaxHugen]

Eh?  How do they delaminate?

I didn't say anything about delaminating.... ???   Have you confused that with "milled" somehow?