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I14RACER

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Nope.  Looks like they have some flight control issues.  But hey, who's to say that doesn't change overnight?

I just wish them both well, and hope for a hard fought, close race.
Others pointed out on here that during that same practice day others had trouble with staying on and foil control.

So it’s a broad and incorrect statement to make based on a few minutes of video. We know from past examples that these short video clips do not represent the whole.

 

MaxHugen

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Others pointed out on here that during that same practice day others had trouble with staying on and foil control.

So it’s a broad and incorrect statement to make based on a few minutes of video. We know from past examples that these short video clips do not represent the whole.
I've also watched all 50 minutes of Justin's video. Have you watched it?

AM did not look like they were in race-winning form. That is the opinion of my armchair.

 

WetHog

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FFS can’t we leave it as good sportsmanship on both sides. I know some Americans view GD as the antichrist but he does has morals and a sense of doing right. 
Didn’t say he solely did it to have 2 teams in the Semi’s.  The ENTZ crew being on the water helping to keep the boat afloat shows sportsmanship was the primary driving force behind their effort but having 2 teams in the Semi’s had to have been a slight factor in having the ENTZ boat builders chip in. And why not?  It’s good for business all around.  

WetHog   :ph34r:

 
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I14RACER

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I've also watched all 50 minutes of Justin's video. Have you watched it?

AM did not look like they were in race-winning form. That is the opinion of my armchair.
I have and to say that they have flight control issues is pretty basic. There are so many factors that go into these things flying that unless your riding the boat what do you know, nothing. She had issues. But she had the same issues days before the Christmas cup and the round robins. So did all the others. So what’s your explanation for the others having the same issues?

Perhaps it isn’t so clever to draw assumptions? Heck anyone can watch a video and make comments. Doesn’t make them correct.

 

MaxHugen

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I have and to say that they have flight control issues is pretty basic. There are so many factors that go into these things flying that unless your riding the boat what do you know, nothing. She had issues. But she had the same issues days before the Christmas cup and the round robins. So did all the others. So what’s your explanation for the others having the same issues?

Perhaps it isn’t so clever to draw assumptions? Heck anyone can watch a video and make comments. Doesn’t make them correct.
I support the rights of all armchairs to make assumptions. :rolleyes:

 

pluscount

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Nah.  It’s happy times with him gone.  Schools, shops and restaurants across the country are opening up now in celebration.  ;)

WetHog   :ph34r:
I might add that Dems and Republicans are getting along, left wing riots have stopped, Covid has been solved, the climate has been saved and dogs & cats are sleeping together.

 

jhc

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I might add that Dems and Republicans are getting along, left wing riots have stopped, Covid has been solved, the climate has been saved and dogs & cats are sleeping together.
This just in:

Cats are still hating dogs. Cats just bidin' their time...will soon be installing red stripes on all dog noses. 

 

The_Alchemist

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I've also watched all 50 minutes of Justin's video. Have you watched it?

AM did not look like they were in race-winning form. That is the opinion of my armchair.
Yes, and I think you are being a little too critical. Some squirrelyness is a nature of the beast.  You only have to very small points of contact and variable winds, these boats are in a constant state of flux unless the winds are strong and consistent.

Look at LR on the same day and explain to me if you see them much more stable...




 
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MaxHugen

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Yes, and I think you are being a little too critical. Some squirrelyness is a nature of the beast.  You only have to very small points of contact and variable winds, these boats are in a constant state of flux unless the winds are strong and consistent.

Look at LR on the same day and explain to me if you see them much more stable...
Yes, LR looked more balanced overall than AM.  IMO.

 

Enzedel92

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I absolutely despise the unbalanced hull shape of Patriot.  Can anyone explain the reasoning for the full bow with no stern??

 

oatsandbeans

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It only took NZ about a day to laminate the shell on AM’s mold.  AM could have done it in the corner of their own shed.  Of course it would have take time away from other other tasks, but they would have got it done.  I have said that everyone in the AM corner greatly appreciates the help.  I was just pointing out to not exaggerate how much NZ opened up their arms.
It takes more than a day to laminate a honeycomb sandwich panel- if you want to do it right!

 

Priscilla

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I absolutely despise the unbalanced hull shape of Patriot.  Can anyone explain the reasoning for the full bow with no stern??
They had to adjust the hull to accommodate the weight of the old fossils in the rear who do the driving and the pointing. :p

 
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Barnyb

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The Resurrection of American Magic

A dramatic crash left a hole in the hull of a high-tech America’s Cup yacht. But a round-the-clock repair effort has brought the boat back from the dead.

“She picked up right where she left off — going fast,” Hutchinson said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/sports/sailing/american-magic-americas-cup.html?fbclid=IwAR3P9nrdR9jQMCc8oJLRu3PaYHwqKBDGzbvBFHwsZwqtUXCg7kTdbnpaLDQ

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Loose Cannon

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I absolutely despise the unbalanced hull shape of Patriot.  Can anyone explain the reasoning for the full bow with no stern??
The skeg in the first 3/4 of the boat is to end plate the pressure differential between windward and leeward sides of the sailplan.  The aft quarter of the boat (when flying) allows that pressure differential to normalize and probably helps to minimize the disturbance that comes off the back of the boat.  Very aero solution from their friends in that industry.  The other three boats have also focused on the central bustle to help with takeoff.  To my eye NZ have the most developed hull shape (as close to a trimaran as you can get in a monohull, and the lowest/widest location of foil arm pivots to the rest of the boat). I think their foil solution with flattest foil dihedral and therefore longest section that goes perpendicular to that foil - which is very skinny, gives them the most mass furthest out from the boat when raised.

IMHO, flame away

 

33jesus

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The Resurrection of American Magic

A dramatic crash left a hole in the hull of a high-tech America’s Cup yacht. But a round-the-clock repair effort has brought the boat back from the dead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/sports/sailing/american-magic-americas-cup.html?fbclid=IwAR3P9nrdR9jQMCc8oJLRu3PaYHwqKBDGzbvBFHwsZwqtUXCg7kTdbnpaLDQ

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Interesting:

On Wednesday, an issue with a tripping battery that briefly cut power to the boat was resolved out on the water during the boat’s first post-capsize sail.

 


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