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cbulger

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Maybe, but the fish stinks from the head down - 3 Kiwi CEO's have won every cup for 25 years - Blake, Coutts, Dalton.  They put the best sailors on the boat.  They hired the best forward thinking designers.  And most importantly - starting with Blake, they all recognized the feedback loop between the sailors and the design teams were the critical success factor.  Need a person art the top with skills and whose priority is to win - not someone who must be in the spot light - or must stay on the boat - or who is programmed to entertain the owner/sponsor.

Of course its complicated, but screw up the CEO and you're done.

 
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EYESAILOR

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Loser's Press Release?

“We are extremely excited to continue our quest to regain the America’s Cup with American Magic,” . “Upon receiving the Protocol for the 37th Match, we were pleased to find that it contains elements advocated for by the Club last spring. Oh Puuhlease, don't try and take any credit for the Protocol as an excuse for your on again , off again, on again entry. Thus far RYS and RNYS have done exactly what they said they would do.

In addition, the Executive Committee recently received a new proposal from Doug DeVos and Hap Fauth, American Magic principals and Club members, that warranted reconsidering our earlier decision to pause our pursuit of AC37.”

 
The New York Yacht Club created the America’s Cup and successfully defended it 25 times before losing the Cup to Australia II and the Royal Perth Yacht Club in 1983. Yup. That's right boys. 1983! Time to get over it.

After decades of having rules which hugely favored the defender, you showed some ballsy leadership, leveled the playing field, defended the cup successfully with honor 7 times....and then....lost it.....thirty nine years and 13 cups ago!   Most competitive AC foiling sailors were not even born the last time NYYC won the America's Cup.    

You want a winner's mind set?   You got to stop assuming you are an automatic favorite just because you are NYYC and "an important part of the history of the America's Cup". You have got to get that hungry underdog desire to win that propels a team from (lets face it) DFL to first. 

In the years since, the New York Yacht Club has challenged for the trophy four times and lost four times. The most recent challenge, represented by American Magic, ended prematurely when the team was knocked out of the Prada Cup Challenger Selection Series  in Auckland in January of 2021.
 
Discussions regarding the Club’s next challenge started shortly after Emirates Team New Zealand successfully defended the Cup last March. However, due to a lack of clarity regarding the rules, timing and venue for the next Match, the Club decided in October to pause its America’s Cup efforts. Blah blah. You lacked confidence in your selves and your team and vacillated, rather than upped the ante. When winners lose, they get back in the saddle.
 
A renewed mutual desire to have American Magic sail on behalf of the Club and commit to a campaign for at least two consecutive America’s Cup cycles, prompted the Club and team to join forces for the 37th America’s Cup.
 
“While the result in Auckland was not what we had hoped for, skipper Terry Hutchinson and the entire team were tremendous ambassadors for the Club and displayed exemplary sportsmanship throughout the campaign,” says Zabetakis. “The America’s Cup remains the highest peak in sailing and one of the most difficult challenges in the world of sport. The lessons learned during our previous campaign, combined with American Magic’s physical and intellectual assets and a commitment to multiple cycles, will ensure this challenge a strong chance to claim sailing’s ultimate prize.”

While winning remains the primary goal, it’s not the only focal point of the campaign.

And that there is the heart of a loser's press release.

Unless and until, winning is your only goal, you are going to lose.  You are starting off with a loser's mentality.  Every single hire , and every single selection of personnel and equipment needs to reflect the focal goal of winning. If you even start to compromise by hiring "tremendous ambassadors for the Club" or compromise by designing equipment to make your entry "more accessible to corporate partners", Ineos, Prada and even an underfunded ETNZ are going to blow by you to leeward.
 
“The Club’s involvement in AC37 must advance our foundational initiatives, including the development of America’s youth sailing talent and a commitment to increasing diversity within our sport,” says Zabetakis. “We will also continue to push for changes to the structure of the competition that can make the event more accessible to challengers, fans and corporate partners.”
 
The team and the Club eagerly await the announcement within the next few months of the venue and schedule for the 37th America’s Cup Ooooh, you poor things. Are you worried abot the venue?

The winner says "Bring it on! Whenever or where ever , we will be ready for you and we will crush you!"

A college football coach could put together a sailing and design team that could beat these guys.  

This teams needs a leader, a driven captain, not a politically correct kidney disorder specialist.  Guys...really, spread some lighter fuel around.

 

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After decades of having rules which hugely favored the defender, you showed some ballsy leadership, leveled the playing field, defended the cup successfully with honor 7 times....and then....lost it.....thirty nine years and 13 cups ago!   Most competitive AC foiling sailors were not even born the last time NYYC won the America's Cup.    

You want a winner's mind set?   You got to stop assuming you are an automatic favorite just because you are NYYC and "an important part of the history of the America's Cup". You have got to get that hungry underdog desire to win that propels a team from (lets face it) DFL to first. 


Agree. You can note history but you can not rely on it for future success.

I recently had a discussion about a high-end restaurant, family place that is 3 generations old, famous on the US West Coast. During Covid, the brothers launched 22 business models in 12 months to save their place, and keep every staff member  employed. Each business model had 2 weeks to survive or die. 

The mentality they describe is "for the sake of our next generation,  we wake up every morning and have to admit, that if our rear-view mirror is larger than our windshield, our business is dead...." I thought this was a great point of view. With a nudge and a wink, they eluded to the fact a lot of famous traditional steak places on both coasts disappeared during covid because they were betting on the history of the establishment and the aura of a clip on bow-tie to save them vs. moving forward in a new world. 

At some point you need to look at the world differently...

(not a Covid post)

 
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cbulger

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So did Blake.
Blake was aboard and Dennis was a successful sailing CEO as well - but that was back when sailors didn’t need to be athletes and the design process was over when the boats were launched..

Dalts was aboard in SF and was out$marted by a better Kiwi CEO who stayed off the boat and spent his time creating rules like “best of 99” races to ensure the biggest budget won.

 
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NeedAClew

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Ran across this by accident, landed on fp. 

Apologies if already linked. Anyway screenshots with my annotations.

DeVos and Fauth are upfronting money and promised NYYC multiple cycles. 

Not feasible to integrate the scammers into AM, good luck in your future endeavors. 

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nroose

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I mean, saying it contains elements advocated by the club isn't quite taking credit. It's sort of closer to praise. I guess it's true that Buckley are Canfield have their own ideas about how to do things and don't want to fit in on other teams. I guess that is good in some ways and bad in others. That attitude does require some way to get funding!

 

sunseeker

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I mean, saying it contains elements advocated by the club isn't quite taking credit. It's sort of closer to praise. I guess it's true that Buckley are Canfield have their own ideas about how to do things and don't want to fit in on other teams. I guess that is good in some ways and bad in others. That attitude does require some way to get funding!
I wouldn’t call Buckley a scam artist, but he sure knows how to charm Taylor, who seriously fucked up by hitching his star to a wanna be rap producer. Buckley did fuck over LBYC, but that’s the fault of a couple of officers who didn’t listen to other members who knew Buckley’s ceiling. Dude is a poser. 

 

NeedAClew

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Desire for attention. Also to make clear that the S+S riff raff are not included. 

And that it's multi year. And NYYC does not have to pay anything now. 

Leaves S+S free to challenge with Ralph Lauren Yacht Club. 

 

JonRowe

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Puts pressure onto ETNZ if you're having back channel discussions like "Hey GD it's THutch here, we've got it all lined up to challenge again with NYYC, sorry about that mess with KHD, but we really would much prefer to sail in Auckland again, it was great last time, plus Deano doesn't want to come back over here. However if you must sail the cup overseas we really can't go to Jeddah, the bosses won't allow it, so we'll officially apply when you sort that out. "

 

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