Team NZ not part of Joint Statement

[paperinick]

Anybody know why TNZ did not join the joint statement from the teams released earlier today?

Article: http://benainslieracing.com/2014/07/660/

or: http://www.americascup.com/en/news/105_-All-the-elements-for-the-success-of-the-event-are-there-.html

 

[45Roller]

Grumpy?

 

[Guitar]

Not invited?

 

[Rennmaus]

Not interested?

 

[~Stingray~~]

The Euro teams simply 'forgot' to ask them?

 

[floater]

Whoops.

 

[~Stingray~~]

Nobody cared?

They were focussed on cost-cutting and didn't want to make the long distance call?

They called and asked but were told to fuck off because it was church time?

ETNZ started to answer but their phone plan, ahem, ran out of time?

 

[SCARECROW]

There is no way grumpy would ever sign a letter saying "all's good" as it would make any bitching and moaning he did later hard to support.

 

[~Stingray~~]

Grumpy was out of town relaxing in Bermuda?

Already had a joint?

 

[Sailbydate]

Busy preparing the DoG Challenge?

 

[PeterHuston]

Busy preparing the DoG Challenge?

I hope so. Grumpy should be on one of those big Emirates planes to SFO right now, knocking on GGYC's front door asap.

 

[~Stingray~~]

PH, you are loud mouthing again about your latest subject, and apparently this latest obsession of yours is RC.

if you had any cred at all and were somehow in RC's position with a hotline to LE and could therefore call the shots (lol) then ~precisely~ what Protocol changes would you submit to the Challs?

Problems, Causes, Consequences, and Solutions are normally only interesting if good Solutions to the perceived Problems are well defined.

Let's hear it..

 

[lazybone]

No holds barred, unlimited budget battle against Daddy L. Warbucks.

I'd love to see it and I'd especially love to hear Grumpy spin the need for it to the NZ public and Government.

 

[PeterHuston]

PH, you are loud mouthing again about your latest subject, and apparently this latest obsession of yours is RC.

if you were RC and could call the shots (lol) then ~precisely~ what Protocol changes would you submit to the Challs?

Problems, Causes, Consequences, and Solutions are normally only interesting if good Solutions to the perceived Problems are well defined. Let's hear it..

First thing, I'd go to the challengers and say, "ok, you want SFO. This is what it is going to cost to hold the event there if we do X. If we do X+ add that, and then +++. So, what sort of value do you want out of SFO? Shoreside stuff? Where? How long? Bases? ect... OK...so now we know the cost. Here's the price. Show me your ability to split the bill now evenly, and we will do it here".

Next....TV. Do we want broadcast or webcast? How are we going to split production costs? How are we going to split revenue share? How about this...Production of X costs Y. ACEA gets all revenue until costs are met, then we split, 50% to ACEA, you guys split the rest.

Simple...stuff like that.

Right now, all Russell is saying is "The world is mine. If you want to play, show up with a boat, otherwise, fuck you on everything else".

God I hope San Diego pulls the plug on their bid and fucks Russell's negotiating position with Bermuduh.

 

[scarecow]

What I'd do is give them back the challenger selection series. It was never the defender/EA's to begin with. Let them slice and dice the television/web coverage as they please because I think those rights are very important to the potential sponsors of the challenging clubs.

From a philosophical point of view, the css is none of GGYC's business.

 

[PeterHuston]

What I'd do is give them back the challenger selection series. It was never the defender/EA's to begin with. Let them slice and dice the television/web coverage as they please because I think those rights are very important to the potential sponsors of the challenging clubs.

From a philosophical point of view, the css is none of GGYC's business.

And I agree with that too, except to the extent, they ought to say "we aren't coming unless we get to determine our own fate, in every respect".

 

[Sailbydate]

What I'd do is give them back the challenger selection series. It was never the defender/EA's to begin with. Let them slice and dice the television/web coverage as they please because I think those rights are very important to the potential sponsors of the challenging clubs.

From a philosophical point of view, the css is none of GGYC's business.

That is a very good suggestion. But RC/LE want to control the AC as 'commercially sustainable', so they'll 'give away' fuck all. Unless you're paying, you're not coming to the party, sunshine - including venues.

 

[CheekyMonkey]

I agree. The Defender should have hands off of the CSS.

Ultimately, every team is out for their own self-interest, and will only cooperate if it helps achieve that in some way. That was amply illustrated during the rules bickering during AC34.

TNZ could indeed have something up their sleeve, or their own ideas. Who knows?

If I was one of teams in the "group," why would I want to make it easier for the team that would almost certainly be the challenger favorite in the next AC as well?

Artemis had the budget, but couldn't run a campaign.

LR got a late start, granted, but could only mount a feeble challenge even after being given a boat to help catch up.

The others are unknowns at best, and, starting from scratch, face even greater odds.

Given a choice, are the geeks going to invite the quarterback to their party, and welcome him with open arms? Would you introduce your prettier/handsomer friend to the person you're pursuiing?

The wait now is for the smoke signals to come from NZ.

 

[bluesea]

LR got a late start, granted, but could only mount a feeble challenge even after being given a boat to help catch up.

They were given a boat to catch up this cycle, not last. It wasn't even a challenge other than in the minds of advertisers and sports fans.