Team Racing F18's 16th april 11 am Eastern Time live on SA

[MischadeMunck]

Hi everyone,

 

I would like to get you're attention to the F18 Team Racing Event wich i am organising. I want to make sailing more of a spectater and audience sport and prove that team racing can be a lot of fun on F18's!

 

Here is some short info:

-Short Courses right in front of the beach!

-Public sitting on a podium!

-Live video broadcasting & Gps!

-Onboard camera's to be viewed in front of the podium on a big screen tv for a close up view of the action!

-Team gadgets wil be handed out to spectaters to cheer for their team!

-Live commentary will be done by Macca and Wouter Samama !

-Judges on the water wil decide on protests!

The Knockout will air on April 16th at 11 AM Eastern time and will be on the front page of SA!

 

Please spread the word, post the attached poster on other websites and lets make it a big succes!

 

Greetz,

 

Mischa de Munck

From the Netherlands

 

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[tmachette]

What boats will be represented?

 

[MischadeMunck]

What boats will be represented?

Team Green:

-Oscar Zeekant & Karel Begeman (Hobie Wildcat)

-Froukje Feenstra & Mischa de Munck (Hobie Wildcat)

Team Orange:

-Thijs Visser & Matthieu Marfaing (Nacra Infusion Mk2)

-Mischa Heemskerk & Bastiaan Tentij (Cirrus R)

Team Pink:

-Pim Nieuwenhuis & Ferdinand van West (Nacra Infusion Mk2)

-Willem Geijssen & Rico van Capelle (Nacra Infusion Mk2)

Team Blue:

-Darren Bundock & Jeroen Van Leeuwen (C2)

-Jorden Veenman & Frank de Waard (Nacra Infusion Mk2)

 

 

[lasersail2]

As a new owner of an F18 that loves team racing- both competing and umpiring, seeing this announcement was really exciting. What type of courses do you plan to run? Fully umpired? Kites? I hope the broadcast will be recorded as I will be on the water judging at that time!

Best of luck on the event, hopefully we will see something similar in the US!

 

[MischadeMunck]

As a new owner of an F18 that loves team racing- both competing and umpiring, seeing this announcement was really exciting. What type of courses do you plan to run? Fully umpired? Kites? I hope the broadcast will be recorded as I will be on the water judging at that time!

Best of luck on the event, hopefully we will see something similar in the US!

We will be sailing this course! Which course do you recommend?

And yes everything will be fully empired probably by Carrie Howe and another judge!

Nice to hear that you are so enthusiastic!

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[MischadeMunck]

Yesterday Macca, Mischa Heemskerk, Bastiaan, me and the production company tested the On-board camera systems wich were transmitted to shore (see transmitter above spreader), the GPS trackers, made a promo video and did to match races to test the course.

It was fantastic!

Attached picture is a short preview of action to come!

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[F18 Sailor]

This looks fantastic! The N course is definitely the preferred team racing course, highly tactical and you can run multiple start sequences. I'm curious as to why you are split into 4 teams of two boats each-this makes scoring very difficult as you can have a tie: one team scores a 1 and 4, the other a 2 and a 3 for a 5 points each. The only way to split is the team with a boat in last loses, not very fair for a high caliber event in my opinion. I'd personally rather see 2 teams of 3 boats or preferably get another boat for 3 teams of 3 boats. Of course camera equipment isn't cheap and getting more teams with such talented sailors isn't easy.

I'm also curious to see how the spinnakers play out, the large potential speed differences between teams can be made larger with the spinnakers and sail handling errors can further split the difference. I've been told by college team racing umpires that boats with spinnakers won't work for team racing, and thats why the 420's, FJ's and V15's are the only boats that do it...I'd like that to be proven wrong as its soo much more fun than fleet racing!

I'm afraid such an event would be difficult to host in the U.S, team racing isn't very prevalent outside of the college racing scene and getting top level umpires isn't easy. If this concept works I'll help in any way to make it work state side.

 

[lasersail2]

This looks fantastic! The N course is definitely the preferred team racing course, highly tactical and you can run multiple start sequences. I'm curious as to why you are split into 4 teams of two boats each-this makes scoring very difficult as you can have a tie: one team scores a 1 and 4, the other a 2 and a 3 for a 5 points each. The only way to split is the team with a boat in last loses, not very fair for a high caliber event in my opinion. I'd personally rather see 2 teams of 3 boats or preferably get another boat for 3 teams of 3 boats. Of course camera equipment isn't cheap and getting more teams with such talented sailors isn't easy.

I'm also curious to see how the spinnakers play out, the large potential speed differences between teams can be made larger with the spinnakers and sail handling errors can further split the difference. I've been told by college team racing umpires that boats with spinnakers won't work for team racing, and thats why the 420's, FJ's and V15's are the only boats that do it...I'd like that to be proven wrong as its soo much more fun than fleet racing!

I'm afraid such an event would be difficult to host in the U.S, team racing isn't very prevalent outside of the college racing scene and getting top level umpires isn't easy. If this concept works I'll help in any way to make it work state side.

MIscha- the N course is great, that is what I was hoping to see!

Sam- I'm not sure I agree with you on 2 vs 2 being a bad thing. While 3v3 is great, and much more popular here in the US, 2v2 is a lot of fun because a race is never over. There are a lot more stable combinations in 3v3 than in 2v2. Having the "last loses" tie breaker eliminates the break away 1-2-6 sort of races and forces you to team race all the way around the course. Personally, I found 2v2 to be both very challenging for the sailors, and a lot easier for people to understand. I think this is a good thing for the first try at this event.

As far as spinnakers, it works in Keelboat team racing, but that is a different beast. The I14s team race with spinnakers and it works, so I think this well be fine, just different tactically from what you see in college.

I definitely think we could do it in some parts of the US. In New England we have a large group of umpires that focus on team racing, both for NEISA college events, as well as the keelboat team race circuit. I think most of us would enjoy something new, I know I would.

 

[F18 Sailor]

I say try it and lets watch the videos. If we can put something together on the East Coast I'll help arrange umpiring and crew for someone if they would like a crew that knows the team racing rules and has cat experience.

 

[hobie18rich]

I hope this can be watched later. We're going to play on the water and raid the local Yacht club.

 

[MischadeMunck]

Hi all,

We tought about doing 3 against 3 races but agreed (Mischa Heems, Macca, Oscar, Froukje, Carrie, Bundock and me with each other that 2 against 2 is best with fast F18's. besides its easier to follow and we want a really short course really close to the beach.

The spinnaker sailing will be interesting we tried the course a couple of times with Macca and Mischa Heems and could set it each upwind mark rounding. but we can imagine that in a team race situation things may be different.

Lets find out!

Mischa

 

[barney]

Hi,

The event's scheduled to start in about a half an hour right? Just because there's nothing going on on the FP yet.

Ok I see the other thread now. I just googled up this topic, didn't see the multihull anarchy.

 

[chuchutrain]

Hey I just wanted to say I'm having a lot of trouble getting the video to show up. I see the live feed animation thing streaming but I really wish I could figure out how to get the video/commentary to show up! Helpp?

 

[HobieBlair]

I never got this shit to work....

Are there any highlight clips anywhere?

 

[SurfCityCatamarans]

I never got this shit to work....

Are there any highlight clips anywhere?

I really had high hopes for this, but unfortunately never got it to work. It crashed firefox twice on my MacBook pro then the windows plugin download pop-up came up and I abandoned mission. Was anyone in the states get it to work?

What happened?

 

[SlackWater_SF]

I really had high hopes for this, but unfortunately never got it to work. It crashed firefox twice on my MacBook pro then the windows plugin download pop-up came up and I abandoned mission. Was anyone in the states get it to work?

What happened?

I touched the NuGuRu.tv site and saw the maps, navigation ... later last night. It was not during the live event Sat 04/16/11 11:00 am EDT.

Easy viewing, no racing

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