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Mozzy Sails
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Whats the date of the video? You can get the historical wind data from the Bramblemet buoy, which is a bit further west than where they are sailing there.
http://www.bramblemet.co.uk/(S(xb2v4snzcwylagyxbvu2vonj))/search.aspx
http://www.bramblemet.co.uk/(S(xb2v4snzcwylagyxbvu2vonj))/search.aspx
dogwatch
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Between Bramblemet and Chimet, they are off Ryde Pier at one point. Tide makes quite a difference to wind where they are sailing. You'd need to know the time as well as the date, neither seems available?
Mozzy Sails
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Well, you can tell it's late in the day from the sun... but yeah, with no day it's a pretty thankless task. Looks light though judging by the yacht with full canvas up and not much heel. Impressive.
Edit: I take that back about it being late in the day, was just going by the orange glow. But looking at the pier it looks to be morning, after the commute. So like 10am. Anyway,m complete speculation and not really worth it without a precise time and date.
Edit: I take that back about it being late in the day, was just going by the orange glow. But looking at the pier it looks to be morning, after the commute. So like 10am. Anyway,m complete speculation and not really worth it without a precise time and date.
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Tornado-Cat
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The video is coming from this site yesterday:
https://www.facebook.com/wightwebcams/?eid=ARBrc8Cpy8KT05MD1EGeH1aFvVkA4ZbUnyAD0B0yp6F8cV6hJdaHHjBl0NFXKPO_Nc5cRJQmuk7PkFk6&fref=tag
The wind was 14-20 kts morning and beginning of the afternoon.
http://www.bramblemet.co.uk/(S(sgazokzs1z3xuh5554vxzr3i))/wind.aspx
And we have to take into account that local wind may be different but that water seen with altitude always look smoother.
https://www.facebook.com/wightwebcams/?eid=ARBrc8Cpy8KT05MD1EGeH1aFvVkA4ZbUnyAD0B0yp6F8cV6hJdaHHjBl0NFXKPO_Nc5cRJQmuk7PkFk6&fref=tag
The wind was 14-20 kts morning and beginning of the afternoon.
http://www.bramblemet.co.uk/(S(sgazokzs1z3xuh5554vxzr3i))/wind.aspx
And we have to take into account that local wind may be different but that water seen with altitude always look smoother.
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nav
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As the windward foil in the position they were carrying it had the lifting surfaces (foil wings) essentially perpendicular to the sea surface, it can only produce drag and yaw when it digs in, no lift that I can see.
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Tornado-Cat
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You are right, however with inversed V I wonder if they can angle it, and use some negative or positive flap, so that it produces lift when hitting the water.
Obviously we would need better picture and test to know if it works. If possible that would be a major achievement and greatly increase the boat stability as it would work like a dynamic trimaran.
If it works any mono could be be transformed as a foiler with trimaran stability, huge potential.
Remains to be demonstrated though.
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Sailbydate
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Boybland
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In some instances boats that flip back up the right way by themselves are preferable.
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dogwatch
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In response, World Sailing chief executive Andy Hunt said although the governing body had not yet given official sanction to the America's Cup event, they expected to do so "in due course".
Hunt said while racing boat advertising must comply with World Sailing's advertising code and meet generally accepted moral and ethical standards, it "does not sanction or otherwise approve sponsorship of competitors or teams".
"World Sailing has laid out its own ambitious commitment to help create a better world through sport through Sustainability Agenda 2030 and we have no reason to believe that the 36th America's Cup will not comply with World Sailing policy."
He didn't add "Oh by the way, we are sponsored by Gazprom, compared to whom Ineos are angels."
But good for Vivienne Westwood et al for turning around the greenwash.
Hunt said while racing boat advertising must comply with World Sailing's advertising code and meet generally accepted moral and ethical standards, it "does not sanction or otherwise approve sponsorship of competitors or teams".
"World Sailing has laid out its own ambitious commitment to help create a better world through sport through Sustainability Agenda 2030 and we have no reason to believe that the 36th America's Cup will not comply with World Sailing policy."
He didn't add "Oh by the way, we are sponsored by Gazprom, compared to whom Ineos are angels."
But good for Vivienne Westwood et al for turning around the greenwash.
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dogwatch
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nav
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Ah hmm........
'Cleanest' to dirtiest campaign - in one big cheque.
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"Principles? Don't be silly - that was all spin"
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blackman
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In my swiss town Lausanne, INEOS have nearly bought the soccer team and ice-hockey team, with some bad reactions, but the people forget very quickly this kind of troubles... I will not forget, and I hope that this totally insane company will not get the opportunity to have a clean image thanks sailing. I was doubtfull from day one on, and still hope some changes in this AC sponsoring deal... https://twitter.com/BlackmanLenoir/status/989454208821841920
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A Class Sailor
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People seem to forget or not realise that this is more than a sponsorship deal. Radcliffe owns the team. This deal will not be undone.
I also find the protesters mentioned above really naive to think that any sports governing body or even event organiser could ban INEOS from sponsoring a team in the AC. This is not like cigarette advertising in F1, which stopped because countries banned cigarette advertising which meant F1 couldn't be shown or take place in those countries which was unacceptable to F1. In this case, INEOS isn't doing anything illegal and as a company are not banned from advertising in any country that i am aware of. I don't like what they do, but there are zero legal reasons for preventing INEOS from sponsoring a sailing team.
I also find the protesters mentioned above really naive to think that any sports governing body or even event organiser could ban INEOS from sponsoring a team in the AC. This is not like cigarette advertising in F1, which stopped because countries banned cigarette advertising which meant F1 couldn't be shown or take place in those countries which was unacceptable to F1. In this case, INEOS isn't doing anything illegal and as a company are not banned from advertising in any country that i am aware of. I don't like what they do, but there are zero legal reasons for preventing INEOS from sponsoring a sailing team.
Varan
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Me either, but I still drive a gas powered vehicle, my outboard runs on gasoline, so does my chainsaw, lawnmower, snowblower, rototiller, ... the list goes on... plus I consume electricity generated from natural gas... fuck me.. I am supporting fracking! Only fracking good thing about it, one company at least supports sailing. Way better than F1 or other fas guzzling sports. Every evil has a bright spot I guess.
dogwatch
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It's also naive to believe the protesters believe that is a likely outcome. What they are doing is pointing at greenwash,. By the way, here's a picture of a younger Vivienne Westwood. Do you like the t-shirt slogan?
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