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rh3000
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He truly is a classless revisionist fucktard isn't he... so glad to hear we won't have to host this pile of garbage wrapped in a Patek Philippe..."Come on, now the Cup is a game for architects and engineers, with sailors in the background. And with the risk of investing a huge sum in a very high boat.
"One could see the previous Cup had a direction to follow. You could spend the same amount to develop the project, but with less risk of making a mistake. Take the British and Ben Ainslie in the last Cup: the best sailor in the world, but had a wrong boat. Game over".
Bertarelli confirmed he would have returned to the America's Cup for the next regatta had the foiling catamarans been retained.
"Yes, I would have participated. Switzerland now also has sailors to do it without problems of nationality rules. Changing boats has lost at least two teams, one is Alinghi (the other, Sweden's Artemis Racing). They would have had six from the beginning. And it would have been easy to go up to eight."
WetHogh34r:
Rennmaus
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No reason for a torn heart. we're friends, EB or not EB :wub:^ My heart is torn
Larry's an a## too. We'll see about GD after AC36.
Monkey
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That sums it up pretty well. They both did some really cool things, and some really shitty things during their AC runs. I don’t really want either back in the AC, but have no issues with them otherwise.
I’m hoping for better with Grumpy, but we’ll just have to wait and see. No complaints so far other than a dopey boat.
Tornado-Cat
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^^ You may hate them but whatever they did both Ernesto and Larry had a competitor forum where every team could vote.
Kiwing
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rh3000
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You don't need to go asking the same question on multiple threads ;-)
Competitor forum? You mean challengers? Totally up to LR how they want to engage/manage the other challengers... there is no London Agreement type forum...
Is that what you mean?
WetHog
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Need more than 2 and 1/2 for a forum don’t you?
WetHogh34r:
WetHog
h34r: 
Forourselves
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Priscilla
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Looks likely that only 3 challengers will rock up in 2021.
[SIZE=12pt]https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12061895[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12061895[/SIZE]
Tornado-Cat
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Hi Kiwing, they don't and they won't. Competitors have no rights, only the CoR and the defender have rights, and they modify the protocol at will, any time, any way.
The explanation is " a strong CoR". We guess they negociated that, the question is HOW they got so "strong".
Tornado-Cat
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How can you complain about the London agreement when both the AC and the London agreement where governed by competitors ? This is dictatorship whining about democracy.
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rh3000
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I'm not sure I follow... Are you asking how come I've complained about the London Agreement in the past?
Kiwing
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Thanks all above, I get the picture from both sides!
WetHog
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Disappointing news but not unexpected. Suppose there is still a possibility this will change but lets be reality. The absurd boat is the main reason for the small turn out. If ETNZ wanted to foil they should of stayed with the AC50's. If The Poodles demand for a mono hull was binding then they should of went a TP52 type mono hull. AC50 route would of had Artemis and maybe Alinghi signed up in addition to what they have now. TP52 type route could of produced more.
Now what? If the JC75 is used beyond this edition their probably will be less Challengers than now. Would The Poodle challenge again based on all the money he is shelling out now and his age? Probably not. Do the Brits have a 3rd cycle in them financially? Far from certain. That leaves the NYYC. They may feel obligated to go again simply to try and rescue the Cup from down under and salvage its reputation. They may say "fuck it". Interesting times ahead.
WetHog
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Yes, EB is likely correct that with ‘the London 5’ plus Alinghi, they’d have started with 6 and 2 more would have been an easy reach, to get 8+ Challengers in Auckland.
anyway, here’s a decently-translated version of the EB interview:
http://www.lastampa.it/2018/05/31/esteri/bertarelli-the-americas-cup-has-become-a-game-for-engineers-i-wont-be-there-ox9vqmLnonCML45kxAsbPN/pagina.html
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Includes GD, both video and audio
America's Cup: Grant Dalton's 2021 entry numbers talk falls short
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12061895
(great news about free-to-air)
America's Cup: Grant Dalton's 2021 entry numbers talk falls short
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12061895
(great news about free-to-air)
That's the bottom line for sure, and the costs to develop something that might not even work!
The chances of these monstrosities being fit for purpose are pretty slim, and one major issue is going to be turning the things. Huge polar moments in roll ( good to a degree ) but particularly yaw with the couple of tons stuck out the sides are going to really restrict the general manouevering.
Got to get the thing turning first, but then also got to stop the rotation too. Reckon they'll be found wanting in this aspect.
