Teams?

[Tornado-Cat]

  If ETNZ wanted to foil they should of stayed with the AC50's.  If The Poodles demand for a mono hull was binding then they should of went a TP52 type mono hull. 

I agree that they should have stayed with multi, but if they were binded by a mono they had to chose a foiling one, 

A classic mono would have made a joke of the Ac with a competitive "Super AC 50" event.

 

[Rennmaus]

^ Nope, it would have drawn a clearer line.

After all, the toy boat regatta ~is~ a different kind of competition, and has no meaning for the AC anyway... At least that's what we're told hereabouts.

 

[Tornado-Cat]

^ Nope, it would have drawn a clearer line.

For sure it would have been a clear line, I would have loved to "compare" two AC teams on slow monos in Aukland while the majors would have fun at 50 kts in Bermudas and elsewhere.

No GD could not afford that, but he takes the risk of a boat that may be amazing or.... impossible to sail.

 

[Monkey]

I agree that they should have stayed with multi, but if they were binded by a mono they had to chose a foiling one, 

A classic mono would have made a joke of the Ac with a competitive "Super AC 50" event.

I completely disagree. I think this edition would’ve been far better if they weren’t pretending to compete speedwise with the last gen 50’s. It could have been a perfectly cool boat at half the speed. 

 

[Kiwing]

It seems we have the best of both worlds.

Races at half the speed in low wind conditions, and foiling boats for the higher wind conditions.

Personally I don't care if they are faster than the F50s or not as long as they foil some of the time.

How many races are 100% foiling in the moths?  All?  Or do some part races happen not foiling?

 

[FinnFish]

Looks likely that only 3 challengers will rock up in 2021.

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Same as SF then.

Well, LR vs TNZ, goodo.

 

[dogwatch]

How many races are 100% foiling in the moths?  All?  Or do some part races happen not foiling?

Our local mothists, and we have quite a few, don't come out to play in non-foiling conditions.

 

[Kiwing]

In a Moth world championship if there is not enough wind to foil, are races postponed?

I think it is the Defender/COR design that only half of the racing time will be foiling.

Like AC34 maybe they will be surprised?

 

[dogwatch]

I don't think their SIs have a lower wind limit but I did safety boat at a Moth championship and IIRC we didn't start races in sub-foiling conditions. I guess if it were consistently light wind we might have done to get enough races but it didn't come to that. Our local Moth sailors don't sail if they can't foil so they don't seem interested in practising in light conditions.

 

[2Newts]

Looks likely that only 3 challengers will rock up in 2021.

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So, what about the second Italian challenger? That sure looked legit from what they were putting out. Underfunded, but legit. I suppose that the fact that GD doesn't include them would mean that he's not seeing seriousness from his end. 

And second, I like the deflection on the "previous cup organizers." Nothing like stirring the pot a bit by acting like a president who's been in office long enough to take responsibility but still puts any bad news on his predecessor. 

 

[KiwiJoker]

  On 5/31/2018 at 4:06 PM,  Priscilla said:

Looks likely that only 3 challengers will rock up in 2021.

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10 Hours agp,  2Newts said:

So, what about the second Italian challenger? That sure looked legit from what they were putting out. Underfunded, but legit. I suppose that the fact that GD doesn't include them would mean that he's not seeing seriousness from his end. 

And second, I like the deflection on the "previous cup organizers." Nothing like stirring the pot a bit by acting like a president who's been in office long enough to take responsibility but still puts any bad news on his predecessor. 

It helps to understand that NZ Herald does't have a sailing or America's Cup write or editor.

This piece was hacked together by sportswriter Chris Rattue who has trouble getting football stories straight.  You can bet he's completely unaware of the second Italian syndicate and hasn't a clue about stirrings from Norway. A slam-bam-thankyoum'aam quickie, nothing more.

His own paper reports Grant Dalton reporting that more hopefuls are in the wings.

 

[Monkey]

Any team that isn’t fully funded and already at work will just be a filler. I’m guessing one more will show up. 

An expensive new design, combined with a location that has a small global audience for sponsorship pretty much sealed the deal this would be a small event. 

 

[Stingray~]

Any team that isn’t fully funded and already at work will just be a filler. I’m guessing one more will show up. 

An expensive new design, combined with a location that has a small global audience for sponsorship pretty much sealed the deal this would be a small event. 

Xlot will respond with something scathing but IF the Govt of Sardinia helps back the Torres team then I rate them as having a chance of making it to the start line. In some contraption anyway

 

[rh3000]

Any team that isn’t fully funded and already at work will just be a filler. I’m guessing one more will show up. 

An expensive new design, combined with a location that has a small global audience for sponsorship pretty much sealed the deal this would be a small event. 

We had a couple of those 'fillers' last time too

 

[Tornado-Cat]

I wish to see many teams, but the more we go the less chance...

Amusing to see that some consider that the CSS is purely the role of the challenger, it's not a DoD match, it's a Mutual Consent match.

The defender gave by MC his hip pocket challenger all rights. Not sure it will help decide many team to jump in a game where they have no voice and which rules can be modified any time.

 

[Forourselves]

I wish to see many teams, but the more we go the less chance...

Amusing to see that some consider that the CSS is purely the role of the challenger, it's not a DoD match, it's a Mutual Consent match.

The defender gave by MC his hip pocket challenger all rights. Not sure it will help decide many team to jump in a game where they have no voice and which rules can be modified any time.

ETNZ and LR consider the CSS to be the role of the challenger. Thats all that matters.

 

[Tornado-Cat]

ETNZ and LR consider the CSS to be the role of the challenger. Thats all that matters.

You mean, that the chosen in advance hip pocket will have all rights, excluding all other competitors.

 

[Forourselves]

You mean, that the chosen in advance hip pocket will have all rights, excluding all other competitors.

I mean the first Challenge which was handed to the Commodore of the RNZYS following the ETNZ victory in Bermuda, who subsequently became Challenger of Record, and acquired all rights of the CoR as per the mutually agreed protocol.

 

[barfy]

like Team Australia did last cycle?

 

[agk470]

like Team Australia did last cycle?

Well played.