Teams?

[Tornado-Cat]

I mean the first Challenge which was handed to the Commodore of the RNZYS following the ETNZ victory in Bermuda, who subsequently became Challenger of Record, and acquired all rights of the CoR as per the mutually agreed protocol.

The hip pocket is a mean for a defender to organize an event open to many teams, not grant special rights to a friend or try to keep the cup indefinitely.

At least Ernesto and Larry understood that.

 

[Monkey]

We had a couple of those 'fillers' last time too

Well, of course. They’ve been around for years. I was just saying that any stragglers that join up are unlikely to be very competitive. 

 

[Forourselves]

The hip pocket is a mean for a defender to organize an event open to many teams, not grant special rights to a friend or try to keep the cup indefinitely.

At least Ernesto and Larry understood that.

You are mixed up my friend - smh

 

[nav]

The hip pocket is a mean for a defender to organize an event open to many teams, not grant special rights to a friend or try to keep the cup indefinitely.

At least Ernesto and Larry understood that.

You struggle with the basics TC. There is a 'forum' going on - if you payed a little attention instead of just making (up) trouble. Communication is flowing, there are no complaints from anyone serious, the DOG is being honoured....give up the whining and let Ben the Fracker and Casper speak for themselves if they have any issues

 

[Tornado-Cat]

You struggle with the basics TC. There is a 'forum' going on -

Any voting rights to the competitors ?

 

[nav]

Unlike last time they don't change the rules every ten minutes - vote on what exactly councilor?

And when was the last time you got a vote at a regatta?

 

[Tornado-Cat]

 there are no complaints from anyone serious,

^^ As for OR, do you expect any complain from a team not already accepeted ? How many serious ?

 

[KiwiJoker]

^^ As for OR, do you expect any complain from a team not already accepeted ? How many serious ?

You're clearly struggling TC.

The hip pocket challenge is by now a time-honoured mechanism for a newly-minted defender to  anoint an experienced  bona fide challenger who can be expected to  fairly represent the interests of the entire challenger body. It's been that way for the last 40 years or so.

 

[dogwatch]

The hip pocket challenge is by now a time-honoured mechanism for a newly-minted defender to  anoint an experienced  bona fide challenger who can be expected to  fairly represent the interests of the entire challenger body. 

How nice. Nothing at all then about anointing a challenger amenable to the defender? 

 

[Tornado-Cat]

You're clearly struggling TC.

The hip pocket challenge is by now a time-honoured mechanism for a newly-minted defender to  anoint an experienced  bona fide challenger

1) who can be expected to  fairly represent the interests of the entire challenger body.

2) It's been that way for the last 40 years or so.

1)  :lol:

2) :lol:

 

[Forourselves]

1)  :lol:

2) :lol:

Never fear, for all is right with the AC again. 

 

[Boybland]

You're clearly struggling TC.

The hip pocket challenge is by now a time-honoured mechanism for a newly-minted defender to  anoint an experienced  bona fide challenger who can be expected to  fairly represent the interests of the entire challenger body. It's been that way for the last 40 years or so.

It's the only way to be compliant with the deed and not end up in a court room which is where pretty much every challenge that has not been a hip pocket challenge has ended up.  As long as they are  genuine challenge and not some artifact created for the sole purposes of the defender ala CNEV there probably isn't a better non contestable way of doing it.

 

[Indio]

How nice. Nothing at all then about anointing a challenger amenable to the defender? 

ALL hip-pocket Challengers have been "amenable" to the Defenders - hence the term. Some too "amenable" than others which is why we've had DoG Challenges. Where have you been hiding for the last 30+ years?

 

[dogwatch]

Yes that was actually my point.

 

[Forourselves]

Its official.

https://www.sail-world.com/news/206135/Am-Cup-Sardinian-Challenge-accepted

 

[Monkey]

Its official.

https://www.sail-world.com/news/206135/Am-Cup-Sardinian-Challenge-accepted

Very cool. The more the merrier. 

 

[southseasbill]

Given two challenges from Italy and now that Mr Trump has made America great again. I'm expecting a raft of more challenges from the USA.

 

[Forourselves]

So hypothetically speaking...if this current Americas Cup cycle gets as many, or more entries than Bermuda (it already has more than San Francisco, and is on track to at least match the number of teams in Bermuda) does that mean that all the talk of these current campaigns being "Too expensive" and "New Zealand is too far away to attract sponsors" was/ is wrong? Or does it mean that all the talk of affordability last time round was indeed a "ruse" and LR and ETNZ were right the whole time? Certainly if this cycle were to gain more teams than both previous cycles it would validate the majority, if not every concern Dalton and Bertelli had regarding the direction and the behavior of Oracle Team USA.

 

[Fireball]

^ It's worth recalling that AC34 had 14 entries, of which 12 were accepted, and only 3 made it to the challenger rounds.

Maybe wait until 2021 before judging how the changes for AC36 have fared.

 

[Forourselves]

^ It's worth recalling that AC34 had 14 entries, of which 12 were accepted, and only 3 made it to the challenger rounds.

Maybe wait until 2021 before judging how the changes for AC36 have fared.

"It's worth recalling that AC34 had 14 entries" no its not, because its irrelevant. AC34 only had 4 entries, of which only 3 made it to the starting line. It would've been 2 if not for the relationship between ETNZ and Luna Rossa. Without Luna Rossa, there would've been no challenger series to speak of. It would've been training runs for ETNZ for a month before the AC started.