dogwatch
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AC34 and AC35 had woefully low numbers of competitors. So no, don't expect applause for matching AC35. The point was to do better.
Teams?
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The list of entries for AC34 and when they withdrew is complicated. Have a look at these links if you're interested.
http://www.cupinfo.com/en/ac34-americas-cup-2013-official-challenger-entry-order.php
http://www.cupinfo.com/en/americas-cup-challenger-index-2013-34-01.php
But at the AC34 entry deadline of 31 March 2011 there were 12 entries accepted.
Forourselves
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And the point is still, to do better. The Cup was thriving until Oracle took over, now everyone has to "Do better"
arneelof
Member
Yes, valencia jag many teams, but the as a spectator it was quite uninteresting. Only a few competitive teams so I guess the difference was that you could enter but not be competitive with a low budget. (what was the budget for Team Shoshaloza?
WetHog
Super Anarchist
But they are not doing better. More like making the same arrogant mistakes.
WetHog
h34r:
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
How do you mean? by introducing new teams? tick. By pushing the design envelope? tick. By airing the event free to air? tick. By rebuilding the NZ Marine industry? Tick. How is that "making the same arrogant mistakes" They seem to be ticking more boxes than the last defender ever did.But they are not doing better. More like making the same arrogant mistakes.
WetHog
Oracle introducing more teams? Well maybe Artemis and Groupama (who are now both seemingly out) possibly Softbank (although they seemed more like an Oracle Team USA training team than anything else, a way to incorporate a two boat testing program without actually building a second boat)
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Forourselves
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Was there really ever any word from those 10 teams that they were serious? Or do we just take GGYC's word for it? At least this time round the teams themselves are announcing their campaigns, so we know they're serious, where in 2013 GGYC told us we had 14 challengers and we just had to take their word for it. Seems more like they exaggerated the numbers in order to promote their event.
@sclarke Sorry mate but you show yourself to be a complete chucklehead. Don't feel bad, though, because Richard Gladwell took the bait, as did Craig Leweck by running this in Scuttlebutt.
Like Gladwell and Leweck, did you not notice
- that this "official statement" misspells the name of the team leader?
- that it does not name a YC but says "The beautiful island of Sardinia has issued a challenge?"
- that it misspells Aukland (sic)
- that the URL acsardinia.com was registered on 5 juin 2018 and that there is no website
- that the contact person [email protected] has not responded to inquiries for more info
- that ETNZ has said nothing about receiving or accepting this challenge
Do you really think they have the €€
- to pay the $1 million entry fee due 10 days after acceptance of the challenge
- to put up the $1 million performance bond due at the end of July?
If you think this is a valid, accepted challenge, perhaps you'd be interested in buying the Ponte Vecchio in Firenze. I could let you have it for a very special low price.
Forourselves
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First of all, a "chucklehead"? Sure, what ever you say.
Second, I don't care about spelling mistakes, especially given English is often a second language in Europe.
Third, are Teams allowed to run their own websites? last time they had to register websites on Americas Cup.com, and we wont see anyone registering with Americas Cup.com until at least after the end of the entry window at the end of June.
Third, ETNZ has already stated they are leaving announcements up to individual teams, so they're unlikely to say anything about anyone anyway. They haven't said anything about American Magic or Ineos Team UK either, two teams we know are definitely entered.
Do I really think they have the $$, who knows? Sardinia certainly has the financial resources.
Its either pay $1million dollar performance bond, or pay a $1 million dollar performance bond as well as a $1 million dollar late entry fee on top of that. If I were entering a team, I'd want to avoid any unnecessary extra costs.
Pay no heed to French interloper YvesKlein. I happen to hold exclusive agency rights to the Colosseum, which believe me would be a much much better proposition
So sorry. You make such compelling points. (roll eyes) Yes, a "chucklehead" you are.
- Colin Squire certainly sounds like an Italian name. No wonder he can't spell the Azzara (sic) or Aukland (sic). Did you do a simple search to see that he is from Inghilterra?
- Yes the Protocol does say team websites must be at americascup.com.
I guess http://www.americanmagic.com/ and https://www.ineosteamuk.com/ are run by trolls.
- You think Sardinia will pony up the €€ to pay the fees and performance bond? Care to make a small wager on that?
These guys are not even up to being in the same category as Venezia Challenge, Greencom, Aleph, Energy Team, and China Team in 2011. That's a shame because they seem nice enough. Just a bit clueless. Sort of like you.
And, pay no attention to @Xlot - I own the Colosseum, too. I can make you a nice package deal for the Colosseum and the Ponte Vecchio. Act fast and I'll throw in the Rialto Bridge, too.
(There's one born every minute.)
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Forourselves
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Yes the website listed looks fishy. But for what its worth a lot of references to a challenge in Auckland 2021
https://www.facebook.com/adelasiaditorressailingteam/
Forourselves
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WetHog
Super Anarchist
Arrogance in regards to the absurd boat which is on par with the AC72. That’s all the arrogance needed to produce a an AC cycle with 4 teams, including the Defender. Box ticking indeed.
WetHog
h34r: 
Winners are always "arrogant" according to losers...Arrogance in regards to the absurd boat which is on par with the AC72. That’s all the arrogance needed to produce a an AC cycle with 4 teams, including the Defender. Box ticking indeed.
WetHog
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
As opposed to a 50 foot cat powered by 4 cyclists with a wing trimmer playing Xbox the whole time?Arrogance in regards to the absurd boat which is on par with the AC72. That’s all the arrogance needed to produce a an AC cycle with 4 teams, including the Defender. Box ticking indeed.
WetHog
TimmyHate
Member
I for one am disappointed that we won't have that this cycle - its the role I've been training my whole life for!
I read through a bunch of breathless, desperate crap in mostly NZ media about this Challenge. RG at Sailworld claims it has even been accepted by RNZYS, although nobody else does, presumably meaning they fronted all the necessary millions.
What is missing in all of them is what the Challenging YC is. Did I miss that?
What is missing in all of them is what the Challenging YC is. Did I miss that?
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Tornado-Cat
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