Texas Abortion ban comes into effect.

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Greg Abbott has a button on his desk to eliminate all rape in Texas

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Eliminating all rape in Texas was so little of a challenge that it was almost not worth doing. It was not difficult, like asking grandparents to lay down their lives for the Texas economy, or onerous, like getting through a bill restricting reproductive freedom, or another bill restricting voting rights. It wasn’t even hard enough to be fun, like thwarting a mask mandate.

These things were all challenging endeavors and therefore worthy of effort, unlike eliminating all rape, which was going to be so easy it barely deserved a second thought. That was why it hadn’t gotten one. There were only so many hours in the day, and it seemed as if the best way to spend those hours was to make certain you were making the lives of women in the state of Texas hell, and creating additional hurdles for pregnant people. When you have many tasks to complete, the best practice is always to start with the most difficult and then leave the easy, doable ones for the last possible minute!

There was probably a button on Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s (R) desk somewhere, if you knew where to look, that you could push and eliminate all rape. That or someone would bring you a Diet Coke. One of those two things would happen. It might almost be worth pushing the button and finding out, except that if it did do what you hoped, it would make all your other accomplishments as governor look small and pitiful in comparison, and Diet Coke has a weird aftertaste.

Besides, eliminating all rapists from Texas would probably destroy some promising young men’s careers. It could also make people who had already had to suffer feel as if they had suffered for nothing. But the point was that it was so completely trivial to do that it wasn’t even something you needed to worry about or consider for more than a minute.

Everyone knows about the button, of course. That was why when people asked what you were going to do about your new onerous abortion law that did not include exceptions for victims of rape or incest, you could casually say, “Rape is a crime, and Texas will work tirelessly to make sure we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets.”

Which Abbott will do very soon! He is just busy not learning about history, or the mechanics of reproduction (feels needlessly invasive to understand how the uterus works; let its workings remain decently shrouded in mystery!). Not learning anything about either of these subjects, and discouraging others from doing so as well, takes a great deal of time and concentration and cannot be rushed.

But he is pretty sure the button is there, and he can press it any time he wants. One of so many reasons Texas is a great state to live in. Eliminating all rapists there is something that won’t take dealing with a backlog of thousands of rape kits and facing all the difficulties involved in bringing accused rapists to trial.

It is both easy and possible, because in Texas, rape is perpetrated by certain clearly identifiable people who can easily be taken from the streets in a flash, with a simple application of effort. It is not a crime most commonly perpetrated by people you know, but by easily identifiable monsters, just as easily stopped. Poof!

Though, nobody has done it yet, which is strange. It seemed like the sort of thing you would do right away if you had the capacity to do so. But of course just knowing he could do so probably allowed Abbott to work on other, more challenging things, such as increasing the difficulty of voting by mail and eliminating 24-hour polling places and making it increasingly impossibly difficult for people who wanted to terminate their pregnancies to do so. Knowing the button was there enabled the writing of things into law that otherwise would be unbearably cruel to victims of rape, such as a ban on abortions after six weeks, when it was extremely possible you would not even know you were pregnant.

The point is that we need not worry. Abbott could end this in a second. He has the technology. That is why he has been focusing on everything else instead, and probably will be, for a great length of time. But we can surely hope he will get around to the button after.

 

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Merrick Garland drops the hammer...

The Justice Dept. sues Texas over its new restrictive abortion law.

The Justice Department sued Texas on Thursday over its recently enacted law that prohibits nearly all abortions in the state, the first significant step by the Biden administration to fight the nation’s most restrictive ban on abortion.

The department argued that the Texas law was unconstitutional. “It is settled constitutional law that ‘a state may not prohibit any woman from making the ultimate decision to terminate her pregnancy before viability,’” the lawsuit said. “But Texas has done just that.” 

The department is seeking an injunction that would prohibit enforcement of the Texas law. “The Department of Justice has a duty to defend the Constitution of the United States, and to uphold the rule of law,” Attorney General Merrick B. Garland said in a news conference at the Justice Department. “Today we fulfill that duty,” he said of the lawsuit.

The suit came days after the Supreme Court refused to block the Texas legislation, which bans all abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy and makes no exceptions for pregnancies that are the result of rape or incest. It also allows anyone, regardless of whether they have any connection to an abortion, standing to sue those who perform or otherwise aid in the procedure, a novel legal concept.

The court stressed that it was not ruling on the constitutionality of the Texas law, but the way it was written could make it difficult to challenge in court, setting up a major shift in the fight over abortion rights and setting a path for other states to limit access to abortion.

 

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I'd bet Amy can run an old town drunk right out of the rack and the shack. She looks like she has some hate-fucks left to give. An old bracero weeth a beeeeeg sombrero and small huaraches might give her a moment of pleasure, ¿ eh hombre?

 

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Fucking hell, my life has nothing to do with the issue. Zero.

You do understand both sides of the argument right?

Anyway, I might ask you the same question but it's irrelevant. 
Hey asswipe, I didn't ask what your life has to do with abortion I asked HOW you life is affected???

I can answer the question: Abortion affects my life the same way gay marriage does - ZERO! Therefor, I don't give a flying fuck what other people do with their bodies.

Why do you care?
I'll ask in a much nicer way.  V, why do you care that a woman gets an abortion?  I'll dumb it down even further to "why do you think most GOP folks care that a woman gets an abortion".  What is it to you and/or to them?  I don't get the argument for being anti-abortion, so please help me out.  

And any of the rest of you folks who have a strong feeling against abortion, I'd be happy to understand your rational argument against.  TIA.

 

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I'll ask in a much nicer way.  V, why do you care that a woman gets an abortion?  I'll dumb it down even further to "why do you think most GOP folks care that a woman gets an abortion".  What is it to you and/or to them?  I don't get the argument for being anti-abortion, so please help me out.  

And any of the rest of you folks who have a strong feeling against abortion, I'd be happy to understand your rational argument against.  TIA.
Please avoid any reference to your mythical sky friends in your rational argument.

 

Burning Man

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Please avoid any reference to your mythical sky friends in your rational argument.
No, I disagree.  I'd be interested to see where the religious aspect of this comes into play.  IIRC from sunday school growing up, there was a lot of smiting and smoting and bashing the first born babies heads in against walls and all kinds of fun & games.  So curious where abortion comes in.

Speaking of which, I never understood the religious objection of vaccines either.  Maybe you guys could do a twofer explano......

 

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Greg Abbott has a button on his desk to eliminate all rape in Texas

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Eliminating all rape in Texas was so little of a challenge that it was almost not worth doing. It was not difficult, like asking grandparents to lay down their lives for the Texas economy, or onerous, like getting through a bill restricting reproductive freedom, or another bill restricting voting rights. It wasn’t even hard enough to be fun, like thwarting a mask mandate.

These things were all challenging endeavors and therefore worthy of effort, unlike eliminating all rape, which was going to be so easy it barely deserved a second thought. That was why it hadn’t gotten one. There were only so many hours in the day, and it seemed as if the best way to spend those hours was to make certain you were making the lives of women in the state of Texas hell, and creating additional hurdles for pregnant people. When you have many tasks to complete, the best practice is always to start with the most difficult and then leave the easy, doable ones for the last possible minute!

There was probably a button on Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s (R) desk somewhere, if you knew where to look, that you could push and eliminate all rape. That or someone would bring you a Diet Coke. One of those two things would happen. It might almost be worth pushing the button and finding out, except that if it did do what you hoped, it would make all your other accomplishments as governor look small and pitiful in comparison, and Diet Coke has a weird aftertaste.

Besides, eliminating all rapists from Texas would probably destroy some promising young men’s careers. It could also make people who had already had to suffer feel as if they had suffered for nothing. But the point was that it was so completely trivial to do that it wasn’t even something you needed to worry about or consider for more than a minute.

Everyone knows about the button, of course. That was why when people asked what you were going to do about your new onerous abortion law that did not include exceptions for victims of rape or incest, you could casually say, “Rape is a crime, and Texas will work tirelessly to make sure we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets.”

Which Abbott will do very soon! He is just busy not learning about history, or the mechanics of reproduction (feels needlessly invasive to understand how the uterus works; let its workings remain decently shrouded in mystery!). Not learning anything about either of these subjects, and discouraging others from doing so as well, takes a great deal of time and concentration and cannot be rushed.

But he is pretty sure the button is there, and he can press it any time he wants. One of so many reasons Texas is a great state to live in. Eliminating all rapists there is something that won’t take dealing with a backlog of thousands of rape kits and facing all the difficulties involved in bringing accused rapists to trial.

It is both easy and possible, because in Texas, rape is perpetrated by certain clearly identifiable people who can easily be taken from the streets in a flash, with a simple application of effort. It is not a crime most commonly perpetrated by people you know, but by easily identifiable monsters, just as easily stopped. Poof!

Though, nobody has done it yet, which is strange. It seemed like the sort of thing you would do right away if you had the capacity to do so. But of course just knowing he could do so probably allowed Abbott to work on other, more challenging things, such as increasing the difficulty of voting by mail and eliminating 24-hour polling places and making it increasingly impossibly difficult for people who wanted to terminate their pregnancies to do so. Knowing the button was there enabled the writing of things into law that otherwise would be unbearably cruel to victims of rape, such as a ban on abortions after six weeks, when it was extremely possible you would not even know you were pregnant.

The point is that we need not worry. Abbott could end this in a second. He has the technology. That is why he has been focusing on everything else instead, and probably will be, for a great length of time. But we can surely hope he will get around to the button after.
I'm trying to understand this eliminate all rapists in the contexts of Republican ideology.

So, if a rapists is now responsibile for the kid, they will no longer rape.

Republican ideology in a nutshell.

 

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I'm guessing (And I'm just guessing here) that it's a jealousy thing. Some who can't have kids wish that they could, and therefore everyone should. And then there are those who had/have kids that they wish they didn't have because the kids are stupid/fat/ ugly/ expensive.... So everyone should suffer just like them....

 And then there's just the angry stupid vindictive I hate everyone people, who are anti abortion, anti-welfare, anti anything except what they want..... Twinkies, and 64oz. Mountain dew in a styrofoam cup.

 

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No, I disagree.  I'd be interested to see where the religious aspect of this comes into play.  IIRC from sunday school growing up, there was a lot of smiting and smoting and bashing the first born babies heads in against walls and all kinds of fun & games.  So curious where abortion comes in.

Speaking of which, I never understood the religious objection of vaccines either.  Maybe you guys could do a twofer explano......
Rocks

Thou shalt dash the babies of thine enemies which thou shalt righteously overcome against the rocks.

It's somewhere after the begetting and before the forbidding of eating lizards.

- DSK

 
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WHAT!!!!!????? What about licking toads? Does it say anything about that?!
Do they have scales and creepeth upon the ground? I think that's the official King James proscription against lizards, but it doesn't say anything about licking anything.

Frankly, I think the guys who translated some of this shit were just fucking with us.

- DSK

 

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Do they have scales and creepeth upon the ground? I think that's the official King James proscription against lizards, but it doesn't say anything about licking anything.

Frankly, I think the guys who translated some of this shit were just fucking with us.

- DSK
Shit..... OK that leaves Iguanas out of the equation, at least.... They mostly creep around in trees, and are very tasty. Frogs have no scales..... Chickens, on the other hand do have scales.... But they mostly strut, not creep around.....

 

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I'm guessing (And I'm just guessing here) that it's a jealousy thing. Some who can't have kids wish that they could, and therefore everyone should. And then there are those who had/have kids that they wish they didn't have because the kids are stupid/fat/ ugly/ expensive.... So everyone should suffer just like them....

 And then there's just the angry stupid vindictive I hate everyone people, who are anti abortion, anti-welfare, anti anything except what they want..... Twinkies, and 64oz. Mountain dew in a styrofoam cup.
I've no doubt there's a jealousy thing going on.

It seems some folk get really upset that other folk are allowed to enjoy sex.

 

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I've no doubt there's a jealousy thing going on.

It seems some folk get really upset that other folk are allowed to enjoy sex.
Never discount the fact that some people just think they have all the answers and everyone should just do it their way.

Asking people for a rational justification will come up empty.  They believe they have nothing to justify - because they are always right.

 
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No, I disagree.  I'd be interested to see where the religious aspect of this comes into play.  IIRC from sunday school growing up, there was a lot of smiting and smoting and bashing the first born babies heads in against walls and all kinds of fun & games.  So curious where abortion comes in.

Speaking of which, I never understood the religious objection of vaccines either.  Maybe you guys could do a twofer explano......
The Faithful believe abortion is murder and Thou Shall not Kill. Not very complicated, but it is.

Now you are going to say, "But there is plenty of killing in the Bible, so they are hypocrites." And you'd be kind of right, but not really. When you read the Bible you have to understand that the Old TastyMint, where all the murder, mayhem, and baby smashing happens, is written to apply to the "in-group." And the in-group at the time were the Jews. Aka the Chosen People. The 'Ol Testy is a message from God to the Chosen peeps, and no one else. It doesn't apply to the rest of the world. So Joshua can lay waste to Jericho, killing every living damn thing, and that's all right because Thou Shall not Kill only applies to the in-group. The rest of the world (out-group) is fair game. Josh is doing God's work. The other place it's hunky-dory to kill is when an act violates The Law - all those rules and crap in Leviticus are great examples (homos, adultery, etc). 

The weird part comes when Good Christians try to apply their wacko rules to the rest of us. We, the Heathens, are not part of their group, we're the out-group, so their Bible rules should not apply to us. I always tell Christians their rules don't apply to me because I'm not a Christian and their minds seem to skip a beat in confusion.

As far as abortion goes, they are trying to apply their Thou Shall not Kill rule to the rest of us. They shouldn't give a shit, but they don't know how their own religion works.

Let us give praise to the Book-o-Exodus






 

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Rocks

Thou shalt dash the babies of thine enemies which thou shalt righteously overcome against the rocks.

It's somewhere after the begetting and before the forbidding of eating lizards.

- DSK
Yeah, sorry.  I was more interested in getting into the priest's daughter's pants than I was interested in studying the bible in minute detail.  So sue me.  Which interestingly, TX can now.  

 




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