Texas-style Gun Law

[phillysailor]

Any private US citizen, having determined with sufficient evidence that a person or private entity has violated state firearm laws pertaining to use, storage, transportation or firearm capability and characteristics, is authorized to file civil suit against that person or entity in the amount of $1,000.

Online forms shall be made available subject to a modest filing fee, and are lodged as valid and enforceable if the individual or entity has been found guilty in state or Federal District courts of such an offense, have pled guilty to such an offense, or have been fined for such an offense.

Defendants are required to deal with each suit individually; “bundling” the defense against these claims is not permitted.

 

[phillysailor]

If Texas is willing to make a legal medical procedure subject to lawsuits, then surely there will be unanimous support for holding criminals and law breakers financially responsible for their actions.

The misuse of firearms is associated with enormous societal costs.

Individual responsibility is an important part of a healthy society.

 

[phillysailor]

A possible addendum: if the defendant agrees to turn in for destruction ALL firearms and ammunition and firearm accessories currently in their possession AND forswears the right to own, voluntarily possess, use, manufacture or trade firearms, then all claims may be placed in suspended status for five years.

If, by the end of that period no infractions of their oath occurs, then all debts are discharged and the self-imposed limitations are rescinded.

Any person submitting proof of violation of this agreement are entitled to 10% of all properly filed claims, and all claims subsequently become immediately enforceable.

 

[Grrr...]

So you want me to report on people..... for unsafe firearm ownership.

That seems like a poor idea if I value my well being.

Would it be anonymous?

 

[phillysailor]

So you want me to report on people..... for unsafe firearm ownership.

That seems like a poor idea if I value my well being.

Would it be anonymous?

No.

But if the addendum was part of the law, then anyone willing to pay money to get dangerous weapons off the street could either do it themselves or fund an individual or entity to find the cases and file the suits on their behalf.

The addendum turns the proposed law more into a behavior modification tool rather than a vindictive method to bankrupt inept, careless or criminal gun owners.

But I’d love to see a Dick Cheney type sued by millions for shooting his friend in the face.

 

[Remodel]

They need to include gun makers and sellers in the equation. Otherwise it has no teeth.

 

[basketcase]

 

[badlatitude]

If anyone thinks for a moment that this Republican led Supreme Court has any morality at all, and won't craft a decision knocking down any attempt at gun righteousness, by Gavin Newsom, is simply not paying attention. Trump's Supreme Court will decide law as it wishes, without fear of retribution, they are the majority and they decide law as only they see fit.

Democrats disappoint repeatedly when they fail to grasp the rules as dictated by Republicans, it is never about morality, just winning. Until Democrats level the playing field they will remain losers.

 

[phillysailor]

They need to include gun makers and sellers in the equation. Otherwise it has no teeth.

I disagree for two reasons.

First, Gunmakers are specifically excluded from civil liability suits by certain federal laws, and one would have to prove violation of federal or state laws before levying a $1,000 suit against them.

Second, this proposal is designed to change the behavior and mindset of gun owners such that safety and following regulations is their first and foremost principle.

Its about promoting personal responsibility.

Edit to add: the law would apply to illegal gun sales and trades

 

[Remodel]

I disagree for two reasons.

First, Gunmakers are specifically excluded from civil liability suits by certain federal laws, and one would have to prove violation of federal or state laws before levying a $1,000 suit against them.

Second, this proposal is designed to change the behavior and mindset of gun owners such that safety and following regulations is their first and foremost principle.

Its about promoting personal responsibility.

Like that has a chance in hell of happening.

Good luck!

 

[SloopJonB]

Like that has a chance in hell of happening.

Good luck!

"Hypothetical" is not in your lexicon is it?

 

[dacapo]

They need to include gun makers and sellers in the equation. Otherwise it has no teeth.

And add a digit to the $ for each offense. 

 

[Ishmael]

And add a digit to the $ for each offense. 

I'd start with an extra digit. $10,000 to start with, just like the Texas abortion abortion.

 

[Remodel]

"Hypothetical" is not in your lexicon is it?

I must have missed it. Where in the thread, other than your post is that word used?

 

[SloopJonB]

 

[dacapo]

I'd start with an extra digit. $10,000 to start with, just like the Texas abortion abortion.

Zactly  what I meant 

 

[d'ranger]

Anyone have a cite for this? The only new law was Sept 1 which removed the requirement for a license to carry a handgun. Longguns have long been legal to carry here. TIA.

 

[phillysailor]

I thought it was obvious that this thread is based on a proposal. Sloops and everyone else understood, but I guess some other folks need a bit of guidance.

 

[d'ranger]

Sorry I missed the -style part. So I propose a law where I can turn in people not wearing masks indoors.  $25 a pop would work for me just fine.