That's a trailer sailer!

jdege

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So, how about my Herreshoff/Vaitses Meadowlark?

She's 37 feet overall, but only 8 foot beam, so she's trailerable without permits.

She draws about 20 inches, with the leeboards up, and the masts are on tabernacles, and can be raised and lowered single-handed with nothing but the onboard winch and windlass.

She's kinda odd looking, she won't win many races, and I'll not be crossing oceans with her, but she can get into places a lot of boats can't.

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jdege said:
So, how about my Herreshoff/Vaitses Meadowlark?

She's 37 feet overall, but only 8 foot beam, so she's trailerable without permits.

She draws about 20 inches, with the leeboards up, and the masts are on tabernacles, and can be raised and lowered single-handed with nothing but the onboard winch and windlass.

She's kinda odd looking, she won't win many races, and I'll not be crossing oceans with her, but she can get into places a lot of boats can't.

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Do you have more pics? I really like the idea of this boat but I have never seen one up close.

 
Ishmael

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jdege said:
So, how about my Herreshoff/Vaitses Meadowlark?

She's 37 feet overall, but only 8 foot beam, so she's trailerable without permits.

She draws about 20 inches, with the leeboards up, and the masts are on tabernacles, and can be raised and lowered single-handed with nothing but the onboard winch and windlass.

She's kinda odd looking, she won't win many races, and I'll not be crossing oceans with her, but she can get into places a lot of boats can't.

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If you didn't clip her wings, could she fly?

 
Slick470

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TwoLegged said:
Lots to like.  But wheel steering :(  
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I agree a tiller is better for a lot of things, especially for how I sail our boat 99% of the times. However, I'm starting to think a wheel is better for having company out on the boat and I do like the wheel on the past several boats I have raced on. If I ever get a wheel steered boat though, the wheel needs to be bigger (or have 2) so I can drive from the rails.  

 
jdege

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There's a lot of work to be done, before it becomes the boat I want it to be, but it has promise.

I'm 6'1", and I can just stand upright along the centerline. Of course, with an eight-foot beam, there's not much but centerline.

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Ajax

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Slick470 said:
I agree a tiller is better for a lot of things, especially for how I sail our boat 99% of the times. However, I'm starting to think a wheel is better for having company out on the boat and I do like the wheel on the past several boats I have raced on. If I ever get a wheel steered boat though, the wheel needs to be bigger (or have 2) so I can drive from the rails.  
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I pouted when I gave up the tiller on the Pearson for the wheel on the Tartan. I got over it.  You just learn to feel the rudder feedback in the wheel. I use 2 fingers on a spoke. I also listen for the rudder gurgle. If it's too loud, I know the sails are strapped too tight. I also put colored paracord on the wheel to mark max intervals. For some reason, I have a much larger wheel than my sistership down in St. Mary's. it does allow me to steer from the rail comfortably.

You could install a steering knob on Meadowlark and still reach it sitting on the rail! ;)

 
Lark

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On 12/1/2020 at 10:10 PM, johnsonjay17 said:

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That is amazing.     How much does the trolly weigh?     How do the logistics of wheeling and floating the dolly from the trailer to the boat work in real world?

I also like the aft trailer extension, since so many trailers are hidden deep under the keel making lights harder to see.   Since this boat is extreme, they found a solution,    

 
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Lark said:
That is amazing.     How much does the trolly weigh?     How do the logistics of wheeling and floating the dolly from the trailer to the boat work in real world?

I also like the aft trailer extension, since so many trailers are hidden deep under the keel making lights harder to see.   Since this boat is extreme, they found a solution,    
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Sorry, to clarify when I bought my boat it didn't have a trailer. I converted an old power boat trailer that has regular bunks. On my trailer it loads just like a regular powerboat. I always liked the factory trailer design though with the dolly but unfortunately I never had one to use.

My trailer lights are mounted on a 2x4 that is tied to the transom. I have 2 uprights at the rear of the trailer that are for aligning the boat during loading. They are about 4' out of the water at the least. I have a trailer light plug tied to the top of the upright. So I unplug the 2x4 before launching. This way the lights never go underwater and are at the back of the boat. 

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I also like the aft trailer extension, since so many trailers are hidden deep under the keel making lights harder to see.   Since this boat is extreme, they found a solution,    
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That's European law now. While it might be great on the road is an utter bastard in the yard and packing up and unpacking.  Responsible for a lot of flesh wounds.

 
chester

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I wasn't sure where to put this, could have been daysailer for old people, mocking, not mocking, cool boats....

These guys put a lot of money and work into this old Morgan. It has most of the stuff you'd see on a much bigger cruising boat. Including AC, hot water, chart plotter, macerator........

https://morgan22makeover.shutterfly.com/pictures/8

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you know there is still waterline showing at the bow, better than I expected.

 
d'ranger

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Even if it has power lift and electric start an ob is not a saildrive. Nice work, looks much better than I expected.  That's the only thing I could mock.

 
Grith

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Apart from the tris most of the yachts posted here are more like transportable by trailer than trailer sailers in my view.
Tri are great fast sailers but again many that are truely trailable are cramped inside and ungainly for mixed use cruising including marinas, use on land between cruising destinations and in tighter waterways.
It often seems many here are chasing Bluewater cruisers rather than embracing more versatility around the trailable part of trailable yachts.
There is a mid point sweet spot in my view between camper sailing on oversized dinghies with accomodation and full sized yachts somehow squeezed onto trailers and even perhaps needing cranes ( or close) to rig their masts and launch.
The other issue is speed. Few expect a moderate sized live aboard cruiser to be a speedster and to make a trailable yacht comfortable for sailing weeks on end as distinct from an overnighter or tent camping equivalent is likely going to generate a lot of stuff on a relatively small yacht.
Regardless much comment revolves around sailing speed.
I have gone another direction and many disagree but I feel comfort onboard combined with ease of trailering, rigging and launching are paramount for a truely trailable yacht.
Constantly exploring new cruising grounds often separated by long trailing distances have me prefer a yacht that trails close to the ground, within normal width, length, height rules. One that can be easily accessed for accommodation on land/trailer between destinations.
(cheap and also secure if you are actually onboard at night)
A trailer sailer which will launch on average ramps designed for powerboats and can be rigged and launched single handed if necessary.
All of the above are likely to mean it is also capable of accessing very shallow coastal and other areas and inland waterways with overhead obstacles.
Just my take on trailable cruising yachts.🙂

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