The 2018 Golden Globe Race

[littlechay]

Not a lot of breeze showing there for the time of the breakage. Went to NOAA to get a grib with an initialisation time around when it happened according to the track so it should be reasonable. Not many weather buoys out there though so errors are common. 

 

[jack_sparrow]

And a call to his missus which relegates him to Chichester. 

Bugger

 

[spyderpig]

Bugger

He is reported as saying he is on his way to Cape Town anyway, for Peche it was do or die I believe. But as you say Bugger. 

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Phillippe #Peche (via satellite) 85 HEAD!NG TO CTOWN 4 REPAIRS / RENDRE À CAPETOWN POUR RÉPARATIONS

 

[spyderpig]

Also good to see Heede has repaired his Hydrovane. If he did sheer the bolt securing the rudder to the downtube that is a great effort. The bolt (which he is using as opposed to the standard pin) is the only thing holding the rudder to the tube. He will have a tether to prevent the rudder being lost but it would normally (I speak from experience) have dropped down and off the end of the tube. Replacing that at sea in anything above a force 2 or in any kind of sea is  a herculean task and then lining up the holes and replacing the bolt whilst the rudder is moving from side to side! Chapeau JVH.

 

[Expatriated]

Indeed , the term "core memory" survived long after the arrival of semi-conductor memory in the late 60's. the PDP8 was an iconic machine of its day , I loved it because we could ditch the faintly ridiculous languages such as ALGOL and program in C, ahhh reminiscing is not what it used to be.

Do you mean a PDP11 rather than a PDP8? My hazy recollection is that the PDP8 didn't have a stack which would make a C compiler difficult though not quite impossible. The only programming I did on PDP8's was assembly language...

 

[spyderpig]

Do you mean a PDP11 rather than a PDP8? My hazy recollection is that the PDP8 didn't have a stack which would make a C compiler difficult though not quite impossible. The only programming I did on PDP8's was assembly language...

Yes indeed it was the 11.

 

[Cuffy]

Bugger as well, The Race between the 2 frogs was interesting to watch.

 

[Buna]

If they get advice on the radio, then the advice is bad. :wacko:

Looking for the arrow on this front they broke
A detailed snapshot of the exact area was not found. Only a small resolution

 

[Buna]

P S

Model  such things certainly does not count. Thin (narrow) and raw data are not available.

 

[Buna]

War zone

 

[QBF]

Don McIntyre's latest on Philippe and my personal opinions on GGR Wind-vanes..pick the right size vane for your boat?? maybe a Beaufort LYNX was too small for Philippe and Nabil?..and could have been a Beaufort ORION..same size as a Monitor or Aries..sort of??

 

[Priscilla]

The Rustler 36 has a slightly heavy weather helm.

That fine bow and huge cutaway fore foot does not assist balanced tracking.

Mast just not quite bang on in position and I wonder if the change to double spreader and runners improved anything.

Those  self steering units all have very different movements and operations.

The Beaufort certainly spends a lot more time swinging than say the Hydovane which in comparison looks almost lazy and pedestrian.

 

[littlechay]

P S

Model  such things certainly does not count. Thin (narrow) and raw data are not available.

Yea there is a bit of hole is SCAT data there too:

https://manati.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/datasets/ASCATBData.php

This is the nearest to the time and place of the wind gear failure that I can find from the morning:

 

And this from the evening very close to the incident time; which shows breeze near by but unfortunately has a hole at the position he as in of approx 30S 10W: 

 

[harrygee]

Also good to see Heede has repaired his Hydrovane. If he did sheer the bolt securing the rudder to the downtube that is a great effort. The bolt (which he is using as opposed to the standard pin) is the only thing holding the rudder to the tube. He will have a tether to prevent the rudder being lost but it would normally (I speak from experience) have dropped down and off the end of the tube. Replacing that at sea in anything above a force 2 or in any kind of sea is  a herculean task and then lining up the holes and replacing the bolt whilst the rudder is moving from side to side! Chapeau JVH.

I don't know how you'd get that done at sea. 

I've tried for a couple of hours before hand-steering to shelter, fortunately only a hundred miles.  Even at anchor, the slight swell made it an exercise in frustration to get it lined up.

For a tired 73 year old, he's tough.

 

[harrygee]

Uku about to call starboard on Tapio.

 

[jack_sparrow]

My apologies to the 3 people on planet earth who revolve their day around my 48 hr distance over the ground numbers and weather summary. I missed today on account of being in mourning for Phillipe. I will commence again tomorrow.

What I know about vanes fits on a postage stamp so found this vid by the RO most instructive. The facinating bit was the comparison with Heede less concerned about weight and more about staying in one piece, hence shorter rig, heavier furling compensated by less sails etc yet arguably was still marginally in front of Phillipe at the time of the incident. Heede's concious weather decision when they were close but to split going staying east after the Verdes albeit more miles was the genisus to that platform equalisation using weather. He knew he could not match Phillipe's BS sailing the same course. A wiley old bugger. 

Maybe Phillipe was pushing his platform a tad too hard to make up that difference while he chased and secured a stronger wind advantage? It seems his lighter vane choice has bitten him on the bum. I note his fixation was not so much overall weight, but that weight which effects performance the most being "aloft' and in the "ends".

Poor bugger.

 

[Buna]

I say banality, sorry. However, errors are also repeated.

Тry to sailing with the wind.
Beating breaks yacht. The crew is tired.
It's not "British Steel" and not Chay Blyth.

Necessary to protect equipment.
Almost a  year to sail.
Not force. Do not race "Around the Isle".

 

[jack_sparrow]

I say banality, sorry. However, errors are also repeated.

Тry to sailing with the wind.
Beating breaks yacht. The crew is tired.
It's not "British Steel" and not Chay Blyth.

Necessary to protect equipment.
Almost a  year to sail.
Not force. Do not race "Around the Isle".

Bunya your posts not being an English speaker break me up. Keep them going.

You at least post...I see lurker but no post numbers here on this SA thread have just gone through the roof post the Peche incident.

 

[MH1097]

My apologies to the 3 people on planet earth who revolve their day around my 48 hr distance over the ground numbers and weather summary. I missed today on account of being in mourning for Phillipe. I will commence again tomorrow.

What I know about vanes fits on a postage stamp so found this vid by the RO most instructive. The facinating bit was the comparison with Heede less concerned about weight and more about staying in one piece, hence shorter rig, heavier furling compensated by less sails etc yet arguably was still marginally in front of Phillipe at the time of the incident. Heede's concious weather decision when they were close but to split going staying east after the Verdes albeit more miles was the genisus to that platform equalisation using weather. He knew he could not match Phillipe's BS sailing the same course. A wiley old bugger. 

Maybe Phillipe was pushing his platform a tad too hard to make up that difference while he chased and secured a stronger wind advantage? It seems his lighter vane choice has bitten him on the bum. I note his fixation was not so much overall weight, but that weight which effects performance the most being "aloft' and in the "ends".

Poor bugger.

Agree that was an excellent lesson in self steering, albeit I got lost about half way through and  I think Don did too. A nice history lesson in Aussie RTW sailors too.

Sad to see Phill drop out, but why take him off the leaderboard page!! He is still out there in Francis class, and put Francesco up there too Don while you are at it. 

 

[hump101]

Bunya your posts not being an English speaker break me up. Keep them going.

You at least post...I see lurker but no post numbers here on this SA thread have just gone through the roof post the Peche incident.

Lurking but not posting because we are all enjoying the wonderfully informative and entertaining back and forth this thread has provided, so whilst I have nothing to add, hence post, I want to encourage you all to continue in this vane (pun intended, sorry M. Peche).

I never thought I would follow this race, and I'm not, other than this thread, with its ability to wonder off through a range of interesting subjects whilst the racers crawl on towards the next noteworthy event.