The 2023 Aviation Thread

Ventucky Red

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Yes, the chord appears (to me, not being an aeronautical engineer) to be greater than necessary to just be a strut (not being a structural engineer either).
Or maybe the strut is hollow and needs the girth to handle the stress?
 

Virgulino Ferreira

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https://www.flightradar24.com/GTI747/2f0b1162
 

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I remember watching the first one fly into Miami last 60’s it was coming in over Key Biscayne westbound to MIA , it was huge and seemed like it was barely moving.
The little party deck bar was pretty cool.
Time flies too it seems ~~~~
 

Mark_K

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Just from the photo, it looks like they have enough area to provide substantial lift, especially at the speeds it operates at? Would like to read more about this concept.
Here's a paper on the difference between Ph. III and Ph. IV of the concept which might help.

https://www.aiaa.org/docs/default-s...tmach080transonictruss-bracedwingaircraft.pdf

They increased the sweep and apparently extended the length of the strut so they can get a bit of lift out of it...but the thing is a necessary brace for the radically long, narrow chord thin wing. The concept is not about making biplanes again.
 

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Must have had plenty of time to attempt restarts on the way down. If it was only a flameout seems like it should have been able to restart.
I had heard that the helo altitude record was same flight as the auto record, didn't know if it was myth or not. Interesting.
Wouldn't be surprised if some youtube daredevil was already trying to figure out how to break both records.
 
Must have had plenty of time to attempt restarts on the way down. If it was only a flameout seems like it should have been able to restart.
I had heard that the helo altitude record was same flight as the auto record, didn't know if it was myth or not. Interesting.
Wouldn't be surprised if some youtube daredevil was already trying to figure out how to break both records.
I found it hard enough to tune radios in some of the helicopters I used to fly. They didn't have very good trim and were not hands-off stable. No idea how stable the Lama is and how many hands you need to get a good start. He could have run out of fuel, but excessive altitude is a valid reason for a flameout.
 

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I found it hard enough to tune radios in some of the helicopters I used to fly. They didn't have very good trim and were not hands-off stable. No idea how stable the Lama is and how many hands you need to get a good start. He could have run out of fuel, but excessive altitude is a valid reason for a flameout.

Not to be argumentative but, excessive altitude wasn't the problem, operating the engines outside of their envelope was.

Planes fly high all the time without engine problems.

Except maybe sr71's. And their problem is a shockwave issue, not a lack of air directly.
 
Not to be argumentative but, excessive altitude wasn't the problem, operating the engines outside of their envelope was.

Planes fly high all the time without engine problems.

Except maybe sr71's. And their problem is a shockwave issue, not a lack of air directly.
Ok.

Anyway I found this article, interesting reading.
After Jean Boulet started the turbine engine, mechanics removed the battery and starter motor to decrease the weight even further.

When the helicopter could climb no higher, Boulet reduced power and decreased collective pitch. The Turboméca engine, not calibrated for the very high altitude and cold temperature, -62 °C. (-80 °F.), flamed out. With no battery and starter, a re-start was impossible.
 

Ventucky Red

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Must have had plenty of time to attempt restarts on the way down. If it was only a flameout seems like it should have been able to restart.
I had heard that the helo altitude record was same flight as the auto record, didn't know if it was myth or not. Interesting.
Wouldn't be surprised if some youtube daredevil was already trying to figure out how to break both records.


Either way, those two pilots were screwed.... I would have chosen being screwed and being safe on the ground... I am sure the union would have worked through this.
 
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