The absolute JOKE that is American Health Care

Peter Andersen

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I have been living in Germany for going on 23 years now and have been super happy with the health care here. It is one of the reasons I would not want to go back to the US.

So back in 2010 I got married to a woman I had been after my whole adult life, for over 20 years we had been friends sometimes a bit more sometimes a bit less...
She was self employed and had had a contract in Texas which turned into a disaster and she lost tons of money, couldn't keep her health insurance. She moved back to San Diego and had an issue, didn't think it would be too bad and she was very afraid to go into debt so she didn't get it looked at. Turned out it was more serious than she knew, We had gotten married 9 weeks before when I was home for a visit and were planning to get her moved here, ended up flying back to make the decision to take her off life support.

She was 43 and otherwise quite healthy.
Here she would have been covered under my insurance until she started working then would have had her own, could have just gone to the doctor of her choice any time.
The unfortunate failure in the system was her admitted failure to get it looked at. Not the healthcare system. Did she look into Medicaid? ObamaCare?
 

Steam Flyer

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ERs are not profitable. All the big health care "systems" are closing them wherever they can.
Lol.. you are a buffoon
Unfortunately not.

...from 1990 to 2009, the number of emergency rooms in the U.S. plummeted from 2,446 to 1,779 - a 27-percent decline. That number includes only ERs in non-rural areas, since rural ERs typically receive federal funding that keeps them open.

What's killing off America's emergency rooms? Tight money and a changing marketplace.

For-profit hospitals that aren't making enough cash and serve patients below the poverty line - with less generous forms of insurance like Medicaid - were the ones most likely to shut their doors..."



 

Bus Driver

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Unfortunately not.

...from 1990 to 2009, the number of emergency rooms in the U.S. plummeted from 2,446 to 1,779 - a 27-percent decline. That number includes only ERs in non-rural areas, since rural ERs typically receive federal funding that keeps them open.

What's killing off America's emergency rooms? Tight money and a changing marketplace.

For-profit hospitals that aren't making enough cash and serve patients below the poverty line - with less generous forms of insurance like Medicaid - were the ones most likely to shut their doors..."



Are you suffering from the hope vvv will consider the evidence you provided and modify his belief?

He is incapable of, and unwilling to, learn.
 

Pertinacious Tom

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Talked to a surgeon about my cataracts yesterday. He can fix 'em. That's covered by insurance. He can fix 'em and make my vision somewhat better. That's a couple grand. He can fix 'em and make my vision as good as technology currently allows. That's $4,200. Per eye. 42 has long been a favorite number of mine.

Well, that was fun.

I barely noticed last week's surgery because a pinched nerve made it feel like my arm was being electrocuted the whole time, with someone slowly turning the power up and up.

Finally, a desperate anesthesiologist dabbled in orthopedics and propped me up a bit, stopping the pain long enough for the surgeon to get done.

Surgeons don't like wiggly patients.

Yesterday, the same anesthesiologist appeared prior to surgery, armed with bubble wrap. He propped my shoulder up until it was as good as it can be while on my back, which isn't very. He also injected something under my eye to make it hold still even if the rest of me didn't. He said the surgeon requested that and extra pain meds.

There was more post-surgical pain when I was in the recovery area. Kind of a stinging. I took half of some leftover oxysomething when I got home and passed out the rest of the day.

The world is a lot brighter and colors are more vivid. My left eye now sees well. 20-20 they say. The right one is still blurry from surgery but it seems about like last week or better so will be fine tomorrow.

The hardest part: I'm not supposed to operate a chainsaw or mower for at least a couple of weeks.
 

jocal505

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  • The joke was squirming away, in the patient's chair.
  • American Health Care overcame the joke, even in FL.
Just sayin', Dogballs.
  • My cataracts were removed, for free, not a dime did I spend, and I gained 20-20 vision. Medicare rocks.
  • The whole thing was boring, mate.
 

phill_nz

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have read many pages of people saying that things in other countries are
a/ far better than the usa
b/ far worse than the usa

my stories are from friends in the usa or myself using nz and aussie health systems

most of my less than very well off usa friends have either deferred treatment or surgery because it was so expensive or have had it done in mexico because that was more affordable

then people like fw^3 say that they can have anything done when they want it
well as a counter
i busted my achillies playing cricket in sydney on a saturday afternoon .. after trying ( quite humorously at times ) to keep playing with a completely separated achillies i eventually went to a hospital ( mt druit ) after 5pm on saturday
after much waiting to see a specialist surgeon i was booked into hospital just after midnight and the operation was 3pm sunday .. about 25 hours after the break
total cost to me was $20 as collateral to borrow a set of shitty wooden crutches which i replaced with the alloy elbow type i brought on the monday then got the $20 back when i gave the wooden ones back

if by paying heaps you can get better service than that in the usa good on you but it's not making a lot of difference
 
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veni vidi vici

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$20 for a surgery ANYONE would receive in the USA is the trade off for giving up personal freedoms
 

jzk

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You were doing so well until your last sentence - the water problems are due to climate change and no restrictions on development and water use. This was predicted many years ago and everyone just ignored it or passed the buck. I agree about the health insurance industry so lets add in the pharmaceutical one as well - it's free markets and fucked people. Thanks to St. Ronnie people believe government is the problem when it's unregulated capitalism which funds bad government.
Just look at how the climate changes in California with respect to water.

Drought-chart-Mercury-news.jpg
 

d'ranger

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So jzk quotes me from way last year with a graph that has nothing to do with the thread? Methinks it's a statement on the state of mental health care in the US. Has he been walking around with that graph all this time trying to find somewhere to put it?
 
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