mathystuff
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Instant financial ruin for what 1/3? 1/2? the people. Awesome system. Would have cost you 40€ here.
The absolute JOKE that is American Health Care
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F_L
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I know insurance companies negotiate prices with medical providers. I'm not sure how realistic are the "retail prices" I was quoted. If we had run Mrs F_L's bill thru insurance would it have been about the same?
My doctor said when he gets close to retirement he will probably go the boutique route. He owns a decent sized clinic. Rent it out to a couple of others doctors, maintain an office there. He said if he quits taking insurance he will only see patients a couple of days per week.
Bristol-Cruiser
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Did I miss V3's reply to this post?
130lights
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I’m thinking about the same. I worked in hospital finance (not the billing area)for about 30 years, all at large non-profit facilities. The for profits operate very differently.
The boutique practices would be interesting, but I’m not sure how successful they would be in Michigan…maybe in a few of the areas.
He doesn't do facts.
Can I interest you in a slightly used mindless meme?
phill_nz
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Mexico kidnapping: Why a million Americans a year risk Mexico medical tourism
Some take precautions to avoid being targeted by criminals, like changing their car's licence plate.
www.bbc.com
problems with mexican health tourists
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Either price would cause 1/4 of the people in this country to go bankrupt.
Happy
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American health care story:
When Top Gear were filming in the US, they employed a guy to wash the cars. Full-time job, cleaning between shots etc.
He had to be paid in cash off the books.
He was driving home after work in LA, sitting at a red light, when he was rear-ended hard by a drunk off-duty LA cop. Fuel tank went up, he was knocked out and belted in, major burns. No health cover.
He spent a long time in hospital, they fucked up the repairs, and left him with a bill for over $600K.
So for the rest of his life, he has to work off the books or get a ton of legal shit for money he doesn't have.
And the off-duty drunk cop who hit him? No prosecution, no consequences.
When Top Gear were filming in the US, they employed a guy to wash the cars. Full-time job, cleaning between shots etc.
He had to be paid in cash off the books.
He was driving home after work in LA, sitting at a red light, when he was rear-ended hard by a drunk off-duty LA cop. Fuel tank went up, he was knocked out and belted in, major burns. No health cover.
He spent a long time in hospital, they fucked up the repairs, and left him with a bill for over $600K.
So for the rest of his life, he has to work off the books or get a ton of legal shit for money he doesn't have.
And the off-duty drunk cop who hit him? No prosecution, no consequences.
One thing that has happened that I didn't realize is how many people are now using public funded options. Its moved faster than I thought it had.
Medicaid - the state level / federal paid system including CHIPS has ~ 90 million people.
Medicare - the direct federal program - has about 65 million.
Total ~ 155 million people.
Total US population ~ 332 million people.
So roughly 50% of the population is already on a government option directly.
Of the remaining 50%, approximately 57% of them are on the government-framed high-deductable plan. So that's private health care but the boundary conditions are set by the government.
If 8 people get together for a dinner party, only two of them have something approximating a 'free market health care plan.' The other 6 are already in the government system. We're much closer to single payer than I thought we'd be by this point. My bet is with natural demographics, we're up over 90% by the end of Biden II.
Medicaid - the state level / federal paid system including CHIPS has ~ 90 million people.
Medicare - the direct federal program - has about 65 million.
Total ~ 155 million people.
Total US population ~ 332 million people.
So roughly 50% of the population is already on a government option directly.
Of the remaining 50%, approximately 57% of them are on the government-framed high-deductable plan. So that's private health care but the boundary conditions are set by the government.
If 8 people get together for a dinner party, only two of them have something approximating a 'free market health care plan.' The other 6 are already in the government system. We're much closer to single payer than I thought we'd be by this point. My bet is with natural demographics, we're up over 90% by the end of Biden II.
Bristol-Cruiser
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Years ago NPR had a wonderful documentary about healthcare in the US. The conclusion was that the US had an inefficient amalgam of what is found in Canada (Medicare), UK (veterans' care), Germany (private plans), and the third world. It hasn't gotten less fragmented now. I don't see a way out of the mess - too many entities have too much to lose.
billy backstay
Backstay, never bought a suit, never went to Vegas
This is fairly recent, so probably not what you are referring to??
FRONTLINE & NPR Investigate "The Healthcare Divide" in America
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Jules
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Spain's National Health System is based on the principles of "universality, free access, equity, and fairness of financing" and covers 99.1% of the population, the World Health Organization's website says.
Imagine that.
Imagine that.
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Shithole country, shithole medical care …. But 99.1% get it.
Blue Crab
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You really don't seem to care about sounding like an idiot.
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Never heard of anyone going to Spain for HC
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
There's a LOT of things you never heard of.
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Castro surgery seems to have been botched: experts
Cuban leader Fidel Castro has long prided himself on Cuba's doctors and free public health care system, but that system seems to have let him down after he fell ill in July , U.S.-based doctors said on Tuesday.
www.reuters.com
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
Castro surgery seems to have been botched: experts
Cuban leader Fidel Castro has long prided himself on Cuba's doctors and free public health care system, but that system seems to have let him down after he fell ill in July , U.S.-based doctors said on Tuesday.
Ah, good- an actual news source instead of RWNJ spew.
(from the above link)- "Based on a report in Tuesday’s edition of Spain’s El Pais newspaper, the doctors -- who have no first-hand knowledge of Castro’s condition -- said Castro had received questionable or even botched care at the hands of health experts on his communist-ruled island."
So- this particular health care did not take place in Spain
2- the doctors being quoted had NO actual knowledge of Castro's condition before or after
3- outside the scope of this particular news story, but relevant: Castro lived a hell of a lot longer than you are likely to
The good news, this little article supports the RWNJ spew which always asserts the mainstream media is not reliable. OTOH unlike RWNJ spew, -this- article gave the relevants facts to judge it appropriately.
Blue Crab
benthivore
Reuters being an actual news agency.
