The AC 37 has started, news and rumours

[WetHog]

I heard the same thing at 32 flavours last night.

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WetHog   h34r:

 

[dogwatch]

I heard the same thing at 32 flavours last night.

You've lost me. What's that?

 

[JALhazmat]

Cool, so like testing that new teams aren't invited to.

Am sure the two teams will openly share the data.

assumptions much?

you recon you could get a new  team off the ground, boat built to new specs and being sailed competitively by next UK summer to compete in an event that hasn't actually been confirmed yet?

 

[JALhazmat]

Dreamland, like most your posts.

still being cunty and failing to see that the first paragraph was laughable conjecture, haven't you got a cousin to go fuck or something that passes for normal in your neck of the woods?

 

[JALhazmat]

I am hearing that the GBR’s Royal Yacht Squadron challenge is NOT INEOS, but is from another UK based billionaire, has anyone in the UK heard the same?

that's what Magnus has been peddling for a while, recons some of his city trader vampire types are keen

 

[Paddywackery]

I am hearing that the GBR’s Royal Yacht Squadron challenge is NOT INEOS, but is from another UK based billionaire, has anyone in the UK heard the same?

No, but Land Rover v  Grenadier would be competitive, with JCB in reserve  :lol:

 

[shebeen]

When Alinghi Won AC31 in Auckland 2003 BMW Oracle Racing and Alinghi held the MOET CUP in San Francisco in 2003



https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/11105/Moët-Cup-Day-1

And Alinghi held the UBS Trophy in Newport 2004

http://cupinfo.com/en/NewportUBS2004main.php

Something similar could happen between ETNZ and INEOS now that we have the AC75 Class established.

i think there's a reason why no one remembers this happening!

 

[shebeen]

I am hearing that the GBR’s Royal Yacht Squadron challenge is NOT INEOS, but is from another UK based billionaire, has anyone in the UK heard the same?

did Sir Jim not want to do it, or is there really a better offer?

 

[idontwan2know]

I think we need to understand what is motivating Dalts in all this, and that's keeping ETNZ afloat financially and together to bridge the gap to the next regular cycle. If he can get sponsors, host money or Ineos money for some kind of pre-regatta, I'm sure he'd prefer that.

But if he needs to make it an actual America's Cup match to attract the money, that's also what he'll do.

While I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, I can understand Ratty saying "No mate, if you want me to foot the bill, we're racing for the cup, not a point in the CSS."

 

[NZK]

i think there's a reason why no one remembers this happening!

From the stories I've heard most of the team members don't remember it happening....

 

[dg_sailingfan]

did Sir Jim not want to do it, or is there really a better offer?

Dalton has tasked the ORIGIN Sports Group to look at Overseas Venues. ORIGIN Sports is owned by Sir Keith Mills who was a former backer of Ben Ainslie's Land Rover BAR Team in 2017. Ben went for the money with Sir Jim Ratcliffe dumping his former backers which did not sit well with them.

Yes, I acknowlege this chance is very remote but it could be that the Royal Yacht Squadron challenged on behalf of Sir Keith Mills & Sir Charles Dunstone with Iain Percy being the Skipper of that new British Team.

Unless the RNZYS confirms RYS as CoR and the RYS confirms INEOS is still their Team it's a chance. Mills, Dunstone and others may want payback.

 

[cbulger]

We are now living in a Covid world, corporate sponsors are not going to dig into their pockets like they use to.  The alternative is delaying the cup 5 years so the world economy has recovered

We are now living in a world where the wealthy and super wealthy are accumulating assets faster than anytime in the last 50 years - as a class, COVID has had little effect.  Sure some businesses and people have been hurt - but yacht sales are just fine.  To have another AC event, all the Kiwis need to find is one bird with the itch to play this game and scratch to fund it.  Plenty of bored birds with the scratch.

Sounds like they found one with the itch.

As always, the DoG will be bent to that birds fancy.

 

[strider470]

Maybe I'm a little bit early, but it's better discuss this matter now than when it's already late!

In a few AC cycles from now, we will suffer something like the millennium bug. the Deed of Gift and even SA AC will probably collapse.

It will be almost impossible to understand if we are talking about a class of boats or AC editions.

It's called the AC45 bug. In about 27 years there will be only chaos.

You are warned.

 

[Forourselves]

If Ineos, as a COR, will decide to have CSS in Europe and then going to NZ only for the Match or maybe the INEOS Cup finals .. they are shooting themselves in the foot, and shooting also in other challengers' feet. And since this is not a shooting contest, a more cost-effective strategy could be to simply leave the Cup to the Kiwis without even going there for the Match.

You're not gonna win if you don't compete.

 

[Forourselves]

Maybe I'm a little bit early, but it's better discuss this matter now than when it's already late!

In a few AC cycles from now, we will suffer something like the millennium bug. the Deed of Gift and even SA AC will probably collapse.

It will be almost impossible to understand if we are talking about a class of boats or AC editions.

It's called the AC45 bug. In about 27 years there will be only chaos.

You are warned.

Huh? You're not one of these doomsday preppers are you?

 

[XPRO]

Where did you hear that? I can’t believe that for one minute.

Someone in one of the camps - I did not either, but it is someone that was a backer in the past and active at the highest levels of GP racing, so there is passion, not just green-washing. 

 

[strider470]

You're not gonna win if you don't compete.

That's ok. But a strong COR wouldn't agree on such unfavourable conditions.

 

[Zaal]

I don't know why, but I keep thinking that Ineos won't be a very collaborative COR.. ( happy to be proven wrong )

 

[strider470]

I don't know why, but I keep thinking that Ineos won't be a very collaborative COR.. ( happy to be proven wrong )

This is the last go for Ben, should he fail to win or being at least in the Match, I fear. They will be very strong and competitive for sure.

 

[Forourselves]

That's ok. But a strong COR wouldn't agree on such unfavourable conditions.

You do what you have to to win. Ben isn't a quitter. Its never okay to just give up when things don't favour you.