The AC 37 has started, news and rumours

mako23

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What the fuck?

I'm sorry but how is making acceptance of entry based on AC75 any better than what Orifice and co did in Bermuda?

This is disgraceful. Any other Kiwis willng to voice this opinion?
I like the AC75.....however if someone won the cup, they could easily rewrite the rules. 

 

KiwiJoker

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If a team apart from the Poms enter and then win I am sure they could change to another class if they so desired.  And the NY courts would agree.
Yeah, that could be a curly one!

But if the Protocol provision to come is a set-up, a precursor to a Cowe's one-on-one match preceding an Auckland event with multiple challengers, What then?

 

JJD

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What the fuck?

I'm sorry but how is making acceptance of entry based on AC75 any better than what Orifice and co did in Bermuda?

This is disgraceful. Any other Kiwis willng to voice this opinion?
At least it’s not beach cats. 
I can’t  see this rule applying if someone else won and wanted to change the class. 
 

were there any rules around keeping 12’s or IACC around for so long? 

 

mako23

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More importantly it is hypocritical of Etnz to do this after having a weapons grade whinge fest over Orifice trying to do it.

Disgraceful.
I think this rule must be in place for a DOG match which is then followed by a normal America’s Cup. 

 

JJD

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More importantly it is hypocritical of Etnz to do this after having a weapons grade whinge fest over Orifice trying to do it.

Disgraceful.
No it isn’t. TNZ hated the boat. Why would they sign up for that. It was a beach cat. Fact is ALL the Teams fuckin loved the AC 75. 

 

Forourselves

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More importantly it is hypocritical of Etnz to do this after having a weapons grade whinge fest over Orifice trying to do it.

Disgraceful.
The agreement is written into the protocol. The protocol is only valid until the challenge is decided. ETNZ knows it,which is why its written into the protocol. If they lose, a new protocol is written and the previous one is non existent.

The Framework was an agreement made independently of, and outside of the protocol of AC35, effectively making it binding independent of that protocol.

AC35 involved teams beholden to the Defender at that time. All teams are now independent of the Defender, hence the disagreements and Arbitration cases.

The AC75's are far better than the AC50, and that is a consensus of the current teams.

 
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Nationality:

Jimmy can sail for LR, the US or Australia.

Ashby can sail for ETNZ or Australia

Slingsby can sail for the US or Australia (take note Amway Magic)

Outeridge is stuck with Aus as far as I know, unless picked up by an "emerging nation"

Dean can sail for NYYC or an NZ team - good luck with that

Basically you can only sail for the country that you have a passport in, or have been living in for the last 2 years, or the Yacht Club you were representing in Auckland 2021.

makes it hard for anyone that wants to buy a team

 

jaysper

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It was a beach cat. Fact is ALL the Teams fuckin loved the AC 75
Well, that's the current teams. What about prospective teams?

And if all the teams love them so much, no need to make entry conditional upon them right?

I'm sorry but this is ETNZ trying to impose their vision on AC38 regardless of whether they win it lose and is no better than Orifice.

If ETNZ want to keep dictating terms, they make sure they keep winning. Not pull this scam.

 

Forourselves

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Well, that's the current teams. What about prospective teams?

And if all the teams love them so much, no need to make entry conditional upon them right?

I'm sorry but this is ETNZ trying to impose their vision on AC38 regardless of whether they win it lose and is no better than Orifice.

If ETNZ want to keep dictating terms, they make sure they keep winning. Not pull this scam.
ETNZ can't impose anything on AC38. They know it, we know it, you can be damn sure the CoR knows it, potential (prospective) teams know it so AC38 doesn't come into the picture.

 


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