The AC 37 has started, news and rumours

[Forourselves]

I missed a bunch of it live but TE and Julia had MW as their guest today.

They had some good fun with the AC Venue speculation, starting at around 12:45 of this

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I'm betting the next one will be even more fun! lol

 

[enigmatically2]

But, but @Stingray~ and @Gissie said who cares where the money comes from.

Since when did I become responsible for what they say?

However this isn't about the money. TNZ already took Emirates money so that damage is done (and world opinion would not care about Dunphy money, but looks more at which countries provide it). But actually holding the event in ME would be a bigger issue for reputation. Look at the furore over the football world cup being held there. Far more than there was about Arsenal calling it's stadium after Emirates as a sponsor 

Everyone knows that you take sponsorship money from where you can get it. But holding a flagship event there is a bigger issue

 

[Horn Rock]

I would say that the general impression is that you are the redneck country cousins of the Australians, and thus inherit all the prejudices about them

Not even close.......but then again we think you're all chavs.......

 

[Forourselves]

Since when did I become responsible for what they say?

However this isn't about the money. TNZ already took Emirates money so that damage is done (and world opinion would not care about Dunphy money, but looks more at which countries provide it). But actually holding the event in ME would be a bigger issue for reputation. Look at the furore over the football world cup being held there. Far more than there was about Arsenal calling it's stadium after Emirates as a sponsor 

Everyone knows that you take sponsorship money from where you can get it. But holding a flagship event there is a bigger issue

The Ocean Race went to Abu Dhabi, and even had a team named after Abu Dhabi. The ESS and the ACWS both went to Muscat, Oman, Oman even had a representative team in the ESS! 

The LV Trophy held an event in Dubai.

F1 has built a brand new racetrack in Jeddah, Emirates sponsors many sports and sports teams.

SA is an ally of the US, so the last thing the Saudi's want is an international incident on home soil.

 

[enigmatically2]

Not even close.......but then again we think you're all chavs.......

Not saying they are, just what the general impression is

 

[enigmatically2]

The Ocean Race went to Abu Dhabi, and even had a team named after Abu Dhabi. The ESS and the ACWS both went to Muscat, Oman, Oman even had a representative team in the ESS! 

The LV Trophy held an event in Dubai.

F1 has built a brand new racetrack in Jeddah, Emirates sponsors many sports and sports teams.

SA is an ally of the US, so the the Saudi's want is an international incident on home soil.

I have already said that the US safety issue is overplayed

But there is controversy over the F1 event going to Saudi.

The Ocean race, ESS & ACWS  etc have absolutely no media presence at all so they can do what they like. 

 

[Forourselves]

I have already said that the US safety issue is overplayed

But there is controversy over the F1 event going to Saudi.

The Ocean race, ESS & ACWS  etc have absolutely no media presence at all so they can do what they like. 

That "Controversy" will blow over once the event gets underway.

By the way, SA is probably far safer for Americans than the US is right now. 

Controversy or no controversy, F1 is going to SA, and it will be a huge success, as will the AC if it goes there. because its where the money is.

 

[enigmatically2]

That "Controversy" will blow over once the event gets underway.

By the way, SA is probably far safer for Americans than the US is right now. 

Controversy or no controversy, F1 is going to SA, and it will be a huge success, as will the AC if it goes there. because its where the money is.

So you don't care if it damages the reputation of NZ. That's fine

 

[JeronimoII]

the Spanish press has reported that ETNZ has asked for a formal meeting with the Spanish authorities. They really seem desperate to find a suitable venue willing to deliver cash. Personally, I would love it to be again in Valencia, but I am very doubtful that the current government is willing to invert a penny into this. 

https://www.expansion.com/nauta360/copa-america-vela/2021/09/20/6148eee9e5fdea865d8b45b2.html

 

[Forourselves]

So you don't care if it damages the reputation of NZ. That's fine

How would it damage the reputation of NZ?

Our PM on the Burj Khalifa.

 

[Horn Rock]

So you don't care if it damages the reputation of NZ. That's fine

It's not like it's going to be endorsed by the NZ Govt......It's a niche sporting event.....If anything it could shine a light on the hand choppers......encourage reform......

 

[Horn Rock]

Our PM on the Burj Khalifa.

That's Dubai....just saying.....

 

[Forourselves]

That's Dubai....just saying.....

Yep, I realise that.

Just a response to the original post

"But actually holding the event in ME would be a bigger issue for reputation"

 

[Sea Breeze 74]

Not so sure if DunFay knows his stem from his stern or if he is a card carrying member of the club.

I'm only going off what was reported by ETNZ. Cunty clearly doesn't know sharp end from blunt end and ...

"Furthermore, Emirates Team New Zealand now release details of an email (dated 26/8/21) to the Commodore of the NYYC from Dr. Hamish Ross with Mr Dunphy (both members of the RNZYS) ... "

I'm guessing bringing the club into disrepute is good enough reason for a lifetime dismissal.

 

[Horn Rock]

I'm guessing bringing the club into disrepute is good enough reason for a lifetime dismissal.

Acting against the interests of the club as well......prick should be booted tout suite.

 

[Priscilla]

America's Cup: Team New Zealand 'cease all correspondence' with Mark Dunphy 
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12473881

 

[Sea Breeze 74]

Acting against the interests of the club as well......prick should be booted tout suite.

So many ways to boot these mutherfuckers. I'd love to be in the room on the night the future of their membership is debated. Any SA representatives in here? I bet there are.

 

[Horn Rock]

America's Cup: Team New Zealand 'cease all correspondence' with Mark Dunphy 

As they should. This charade has played out......No doubt Dumpy will play a victim card of sorts.......

 

[enigmatically2]

It's not like it's going to be endorsed by the NZ Govt......It's a niche sporting event.....If anything it could shine a light on the hand choppers......encourage reform......

The same argument as used by F1 and FIFA. It may even be true. But that doesn't mean that it didn't tarnish their reputations. Of course they are both known for following the money already. And they do go to different countries

But the AC going there will raise the question of why it isn't in the "home" country (which F1 and FIFA don't have). 

Don't get me wrong, the AC isn't big enough for it to make much damage, but I think it will tarnish the AC, TNZ and NZ itself, especially at a time when NZ is perceived as cosying up to China with its human rights abuses and aggression in South China Sea etc more than many in the West are comfortable with.

That may or not be accurate or fair, but perception and reputation don't take much notice of either.

Anyway, end of conversation as far as I am concerned, but I still hope it doesn't go there 

 

[Horn Rock]

The same argument as used by F1 and FIFA. It may even be true. But that doesn't mean that it didn't tarnish their reputations. Of course they are both known for following the money already. And they do go to different countries

I get what you're saying, and I mostly agree...it's not ideal heading off to play yachting within a medieval nation.....but hey, we take cash from dudes that built a city with slave labour.....so we have form.......It could be worse, we could play AC in North Korea, or heaven forbid Australia.....