The AC 37 has started, news and rumours

[Sailbydate]

There is a 'famous' photo of the Mercury Bay 'YC', it was a beat up car on a deserted NZ beach. Am guessing it did not come into play in court, but maybe just maybe they did have to prove an existence in meatspace?

Funny how these things live on in folk law:

https://www.sporty.co.nz/mercurybayboating

 

[porthos]

There is a 'famous' photo of the Mercury Bay 'YC', it was a beat up car on a deserted NZ beach. Am guessing it did not come into play in court, but maybe just maybe they did have to prove an existence in meatspace?

I have no idea what you are saying. As far as I know, nobody challenged MBYC's status as a club in the court proceeding.  The fact that they produced a 90' boat sort of suggests they actually exist.

p.s. "meatspace" is a stupid term. 

 

[Stingray~]

RYSL "as the organising authority" 

https://www.rys.org.uk/assets/documents/nor-members-regatta-2019-v10.pdf

Nope, it says RYSR

I am not arguing this any direction but there's f-all else going on, may as well entertain and address what HR's argument could be. It does potentially impact the venue, and the general timeline if a court case does get lodged - even judging whether the party has standing could be lengthy.

 

[porthos]

Nope, it says RYSR

I am not arguing this any direction but there's f-all else going on, may as well entertain and address what HR's argument could be. It does potentially impact the venue, and the general timeline if a court case does get lodged - even judging whether the party has standing could be lengthy.

You should stay away from corporate law. You don't understand it.  Neither does Hamish, apparently.

 

[Stingray~]

You should stay away from corporate law. You don't understand it.

Am more than happy to be better-informed and definitely do appreciate your inputs here.

 

[porthos]

Am more than happy to be better-informed and definitely do appreciate your inputs here.

A company can change its name and it is the same company. "Apple Computer" changed its name to "Apple" and it didn't become a different company.  You just file a name change certificate with the appropriate corporations bureau.

 

[Stingray~]

A company can change its name and it is the same company.

Presumably that is the same with Yacht Clubs..

 

[porthos]

Presumably that is the same with Yacht Clubs..

It doesn't matter what the entity does. It's just a legal name change. It's the same entity, just with a new name. So, yes, it applies to yacht clubs.

I'm helping a client sell her company. Actually, all the assets, including the name. The purchase agreement requires her to change the name of her company after the sale. I'll file a name change certificate with the Michigan corporations bureau. Her company will still exist -- same tax ID number, etc. -- but it will just have a new name.

 

[Stingray~]

If you changed your name to "I am Ehman's and Ross's Love Baby" would you still be the same person? Of course you would. You'd have a weird name, but you'd still be you.

 

I would have to be a completely different person to do that!

 

[dg_sailingfan]

It doesn't matter what the entity does. It's just a legal name change. It's the same entity, just with a new name. So, yes, it applies to yacht clubs.

If you changed your name to "I am Ehman's and Ross's Love Baby" would you still be the same person? Of course you would. You'd have a weird name, but you'd still be you.

Why are you responding to him? I mean, you are speaking to a wall here

 

[porthos]

 

I would have to be a completely different person to do that!

That was silly on my part, Stingers, and I apologize.

 

[Stingray~]

That was silly on my part, Stingers, and I apologize.

Thanks, all good.

There was an episode on (yes I know...) TE's Sailing Illustrated show earlier this year where HR was the guest and I think he spelled out in some detail the possible issues with RYSL. Meritless or not, I could try find that for you. Again, those two are pretty experienced.. 

 

[Gissie]

I hope you are joking. The last time I looked, NZ was a constitutional monarchy, not a dictatorship.

This is not Germany in the 1930s.

Even if he was not joking, Dunphy would only need a short isolation as the team is busy packing bags. Just need Dalts to let them know where to book a flight too. Once they have gone Dun could come back out again and return to his previous life.

 

[Guest]

Yeah right, the classy Swiss-Italian de Nora is a low-profile business man, and the horse-fucking nouveau-riche Dunphy a wealthy business man.

And that Dr. QC is just a sleazball lawyer!

FYI,  from https://oceanmagazine.com.au/quiet-achiever/ :


Quiet achiever 



Dr. Matteo de Nora is a true renaissance man, having enjoyed unparalleled success as a businessman as well as making seismic contributions to medical science and as a philanthropist. As backer of Emirates Team New Zealand’s attempts to win the America’s Cup, however, he is a decidedly modest presence that belies his impact and expertise in the world of yachting, writes Ivor Wilkins.

Behind every great fortune is an asshole

                                     Arthur M Sackler

 

[idontwan2know]

“Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.” Sun Tzu

Well that and I do not think anyone else wanted it. 

 

[Sailbydate]

Well that and I do not think anyone else wanted it. 

Even if another YC had had a man (with an offer) on the ground, they wouldn't have got access to RNZYS to deliver their Challenge. It was a done deal even before TNZ lifted the Cup again, IINM.

 

[Priscilla]

On and on it goes...

 

[Svanen]

I'm helping a client sell her company. Actually, all the assets, including the name. The purchase agreement requires her to change the name of her company after the sale. I'll file a name change certificate with the Michigan corporations bureau. Her company will still exist -- same tax ID number, etc. -- but it will just have a new name.

Reminds me of Bob Miller’s name change, after he sold his interest in Miller & Whitworth.

 

[JJD]

Most of you lot are fuckin idiots.

If you want to weed through the conspiracies and get to the heart of the matter, then @maguah_scalps_pilgrams is the only one to do this accurately and succinctly.

 

[Stingray~]

Most of you lot are fuckin idiots.

If you want to weed through the conspiracies and get to the heart of the matter, then @maguah_scalps_pilgrams is the only one to do this accurately and succinctly.

ME SUE EVERYONE - ALL ARE GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!



God dang that guy was a trip!