The AC 37 has started, news and rumours
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jaysper
Super Anarchist
Precisely.
On a completely unrelated note, I saw big foot walking down our main street yesterday.
chesirecat
Super Anarchist
Written by adults instead of NZ Herald 12 year olds
"There is also a full nationality waiver clause for a percentage to be established for teams of "emerging nationalities", as China is thought."
https://www.lastampa.it/mare/2021/03/19/news/il-patto-di-imagine-cosi-nasce-la-nuova-america-s-cup-1.40046144?fbclid=IwAR3NGeW2yBrbkAqYxajUppFp6OZKMxqSFPNinHnk3O5_msbl3KEb_2WbkJY
"There is also a full nationality waiver clause for a percentage to be established for teams of "emerging nationalities", as China is thought."
https://www.lastampa.it/mare/2021/03/19/news/il-patto-di-imagine-cosi-nasce-la-nuova-america-s-cup-1.40046144?fbclid=IwAR3NGeW2yBrbkAqYxajUppFp6OZKMxqSFPNinHnk3O5_msbl3KEb_2WbkJY
KiwiJoker
Super Anarchist
But this is still sewing up the AC for 2 cycles, when you have only won it once.
Quite so. Brilliant ain't it! Nothing in the DoG to say it is prohibited
All covered by Mutual Consent. Those who disagree can round up their legal talent, pile up their money bags and hie themselves off to 60 Centre St in Lower Manhattan and tear their hair out before the Supremes.
it will likely drag on for years and piss off a lot of hopeful challengers waiting in the wings, but there you are!
idontwan2know
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Problem is, ETNZ always finds themselves in the "unique situation" of having spent all their money when the cup is over, having no prospects of getting any sponsorship funding for months or years, and turning hat in hand to the government for bridge money to secure key personnel.
Pretty sure they've done it every cup cycle since 2003.
KiwiJoker
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Interesting. If that is correct there are tens of millions of dollars earmarked in future council budget for remediation work.
jaysper
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dg_sailingfan
Super Anarchist
Ok, I checked some things...
When Alinghi Won in 2003 and introduced the Louis Vuitton Acts in 2004 they were-non-binding meaning if you had your Challenge accepted you could choose to attend or not attend the Events in Marseille and Valencia. Luna Rossa Challenge & +39 Challenge did not attend the first Louis Vuitton Act in Marseille but raced in Acts 2 & 3 in Valencia a month or so later. The Louis Vuitton Acts did then became binding to race in the Louis Vuitton Cup for years in 2005, 2006 and 2007.
Could we have a similar scenario on the Cards now with ETNZ & INEOS. There might be a World Series in Portsmouth for the Kiwis, Brits, Italians and Americans in 2022 and then in 2023 they become binding for all Teams including new ones.
One thing is for sure: There will be an Event in Portsmouth with the RYS being the Challenger of Record. Ratcliffe will not pass this by. Methinks it will be a World Series Event involving ETNZ, INEOS, LRPP and potentially AM (if the Americans challenge again)
When Alinghi Won in 2003 and introduced the Louis Vuitton Acts in 2004 they were-non-binding meaning if you had your Challenge accepted you could choose to attend or not attend the Events in Marseille and Valencia. Luna Rossa Challenge & +39 Challenge did not attend the first Louis Vuitton Act in Marseille but raced in Acts 2 & 3 in Valencia a month or so later. The Louis Vuitton Acts did then became binding to race in the Louis Vuitton Cup for years in 2005, 2006 and 2007.
Could we have a similar scenario on the Cards now with ETNZ & INEOS. There might be a World Series in Portsmouth for the Kiwis, Brits, Italians and Americans in 2022 and then in 2023 they become binding for all Teams including new ones.
One thing is for sure: There will be an Event in Portsmouth with the RYS being the Challenger of Record. Ratcliffe will not pass this by. Methinks it will be a World Series Event involving ETNZ, INEOS, LRPP and potentially AM (if the Americans challenge again)
jaysper
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Yep, and I for one am sick of Dalton playing the same old tricks at the end of each cup cycle.
jaysper
Super Anarchist
dg_sailingfan
Super Anarchist
I don't quite understand why ya'll Kiwis hit the panic stations because Dalton might move the Cup out of New Zealand.
You can be assured that Grant will use the "Round the Island Race" as a last resort when all other negotiations with the NZ Government have failed.
We will have a clearer Picture in June methinks. Right know everything on the Venue is just pure speculation.
Meanwhile enjoy SailGP with Jimmy, Ben, Nathan, Tommy and Pete + The Ocean Race Europe if you are an Offshore Sailing Lover.
You can be assured that Grant will use the "Round the Island Race" as a last resort when all other negotiations with the NZ Government have failed.
We will have a clearer Picture in June methinks. Right know everything on the Venue is just pure speculation.
Meanwhile enjoy SailGP with Jimmy, Ben, Nathan, Tommy and Pete + The Ocean Race Europe if you are an Offshore Sailing Lover.
Yep and I bet Dalton is pretty sick of having to play those same old tricks each time too.
jaysper
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jaysper
Super Anarchist
I'm not particularly upset about that. It's the attempt to set the class of boat for the next two cup cycles that has me pissed off.
dg_sailingfan
Super Anarchist
Sure, it's not pretty but it has some Pro and Cons to it. Pro = We need continuity with the Boat Class. If we go with a new Class yet again after two Cycles (AC36 & AC37) Participation will decline again. Con = It might get litigated.
jaysper
Super Anarchist
Let's be clear, it's a move worthy of Bertarelli or Ellison.
To not call this out after putting shit on this two would make me a hypocrite.
If ETNZ want to ensure continuity, they should try to win the thing not this shady shit.
Any idea of who might do a better job.Well if he was any good at raising money he wouldn't need to.h34r:
