The AC 37 has started, news and rumours

[Sailbydate]

Oh good, it isn't just us then. Someone else has sniffed the turd.

Well, certainly they are disappointed, but so what? Nothing they can do about it.

Unless they're thinking about challenging the AC75 agreement, entry requirement for AC37 and AC38.

Is this what they are alluding to here: "...to potentially once again plunge the competition into the New York State Courts, is not in the best interests of the America's Cup or the sport of sailing."

 

[The Advocate]

Well, certainly they are disappointed, but so what? Nothing they can do about it.

Unless they're thinking about challenging the AC75 agreement, entry requirement for AC37 and AC38.

Is this what they are alluding to here: "...to potentially once again plunge the competition into the New York State Courts, is not in the best interests of the America's Cup or the sport of sailing."

yes

 

[strider470]

Yup an exhibition match really gives little to the Frackers in return for the associated costs.

How they could make significant improvements to the Royal barge to make it competitive against Te Rehutai

 would be of real concern within 12 months for a AC one on one.

Maybe they will buy ETNZ B1

 

[strider470]

So is the rhythm method.

Catholics have a name for women who use the rhythm method: "mother".

That's a method that has been handed down from father to son for generations!

 

[Forourselves]

New York Yacht Club throwing their two cents in

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-new-york-yacht-club-commodore-slams-talk-of-one-off-americas-cup-match-between-team-new-zealand-and-ineos-team-uk/TD7SMUSX7Q5AACSJ2P7XICD4KM/

Please. The same club that wanted to go back to big, heavy keelboats... No thanks.

If they think the Challenger Series is going to be next year they're dumb as a box of rocks.

The Protocol won't be released until November.

Why do people go so batshit immediately after a Cup cycle finishes? Its like the fucking sky is falling!

 

[JJD]

Yep, and I for one am sick of Dalton playing the same old tricks at the end of each cup cycle.

Oh fuck off you prissy bitch. 
you know how the funding works. Every cup cycle is an end of contract cycle. Same for employees, sponsors, suppliers. 
if your sick of it, go support someone else. 

 

[JALhazmat]

Anything to stop Any of the AC36 teams going back out and testing currently? 
other than money...
 

are they forbidden from sailing/developing before the full rule is announced? 
or can all the facilities off limits, tank, model testing, more foil shapes but thrown open? 

 

[MaxHugen]

Anything to stop Any of the AC36 teams going back out and testing currently? 
other than money...
 

are they forbidden from sailing/developing before the full rule is announced? 
or can all the facilities off limits, tank, model testing, more foil shapes but thrown open? 

Good question. I could imagine a well funded Ineos team trying to squeeze in testing that wasn't allowed between "cycles"...

 

[The Advocate]

Oh fuck off you prissy bitch. 
you know how the funding works. Every cup cycle is an end of contract cycle. Same for employees, sponsors, suppliers. 
if your sick of it, go support someone else. 

Dumb

Fucking

Model

 

[The Advocate]

Anything to stop Any of the AC36 teams going back out and testing currently? 
other than money...
 

are they forbidden from sailing/developing before the full rule is announced? 
or can all the facilities off limits, tank, model testing, more foil shapes but thrown open? 

I don't think there is.

 

[chesirecat]

Good question. I could imagine a well funded Ineos team trying to squeeze in testing that wasn't allowed between "cycles"...

All teams with permanent bases instead of container tents  - would be silly not to.

 

[JALhazmat]

Could be a busy 8 months in Portsmouth then..

 

[JALhazmat]

Or any of the teams, especially those with permanent bases instead of container tents.

They all have permanent bases in their respective countries. 
 

do they all have the pennies to keep the meter running though or the backing, AM least stable I would think. 
 

Grant will get the money if he needs it, INEOS and Prada sponsor themselves, AM dependent of the will of rich old folks  

 

[chesirecat]

Could be a busy 8 months in Portsmouth then..

When Ineos finished their last race JR was on the boat giving commiserations, but also explaining where things had done wrong and  his vision for the future. 

I dont think he will muck about, this has been pre planned and they will be straight into it. The class rules wont be changing much and he knows every week will count plus whats his name at Merc has his ear about the long term game.

 

[Sailbydate]

Good question. I could imagine a well funded Ineos team trying to squeeze in testing that wasn't allowed between "cycles"...

Judging by recent revelations from ETNZ about their simulator, AI and Bot developments, ITUK would be better off re-building their software development, no?

 

[chesirecat]

Judging by recent revelations from ETNZ about their simulator, AI and Bot developments, ITUK would be better off re-building their software development, no?

Probably still  ongoing. They have massive computing power and might have caught up a bit. LR spent over 55 million euros on software so they might well have some good stuff. There will be masses of data teams will still be going through. Rig control - foils - control systems and laying down initial concepts for B3's so as Jazmart said - busy times at Portsmouth for the next 8 months

 

[Rennmaus]

It absolutely was an outrageous breach. (AC55 btw)

I wonder if GD was an only child?

Because those of us who were from a multi-child family of limited means know that fucking off your parents by being a churlish little cunt throwing your toys out of the cot every time you don't immediately get what you want doesn't get you what you want.

It gets you sent to bed early/grounded/otherwise punished.

The Govt is the parents here.

... 

No, he isn't. His behavior is typical for someone with siblings: me, me, me first. 

So much for layman's psychology. 

 

[strider470]

AC 37 will be some sort of a farce: a cash cow for ETNZ and the only viable way to get guaranteed access to the Match for INEOS. If you can't win it, buy it. AC 38 will be won in the next 18 months of development, starting from now. Any team beginning development after AC37 and thinking to have a chance of winning will be doomed to lose helplessly. I hope the 1 - 1 match will be the ultimate cause of losing AC38 for both Ineos and ETNZ.
What I fear the most is that with this precedent in place, we are likely to have other 1 - 1 matches in the future, and this should concern many AC enthusiasts and especially ETNZ as a team, in my opinion...

 

[Dolphin65]

I'm afraid your metaphor doesn't quite work. It's been in the UK in fairly recent times, twice I believe. After a Maori protester remodelled it with a sledgehammer, it was repaired in London. Also IIRC it was in Cowes for the 1851 Cup, held off Cowes in 2010. 

I understand what you mean, but see it this way, the brits would be happy to see again a cup event on their waters, wouldn't they?

 

[Dolphin65]

BTW, may ask, what kind of financial problems are affecting Dalton? I mean, how much money he needs to decently finance a campaign, and how much he could earn in 1-1 DoG challenge in Southampton? Can he really grab a 50M check from Ratcliffe just for a one-shot event?