The AC 37 has started, news and rumours

[The Advocate]

Can he really grab a 50M check from Ratcliffe just for a one-shot event?

I doubt we will never know the answer to that.

 

[dogwatch]

I understand what you mean, but see it this way, the brits would be happy to see again a cup event on their waters, wouldn't they?

Personally, I'd be very pleased to see a demo event or ACWS. I think AC37 as a 1:1 cycle would suck but I'd not be outraged if it were not in Auckland. It isn't obvious to me where the bases would be for a multi-challenger event in the Solent, waterfront land is at a premium and a lot of brownfield sites have gone for housing. Sardinia is nice, I hear.

 

[Dolphin65]

Personally, I'd be very pleased to see a demo event or ACWS. I think AC37 as a 1:1 cycle would suck but I'd not be outraged if it were not in Auckland. It isn't obvious to me where the bases would be for a multi-challenger event in the Solent, waterfront land is at a premium and a lot of brownfield sites have gone for housing. Sardinia is nice, I hear.

Mate, the issue is not the location, but the DoG challenge! If a classic event would be run in Cowes, I'd be there every single day! (I guess many other euro-friends on this board would too!)

 

[The Advocate]

Mate, the issue is not the location, but the DoG challenge! If a classic event would be run in Cowes, I'd be there every single day! (I guess many other euro-friends on this board would too!)

What is a classic event?

 

[dogwatch]

There is no DoG cha

Mate, the issue is not the location, but the DoG challenge! 

There is no DoG challenge proposed. A 1:1 event with MC is not a DoG challenge.

I am not personally convinced that a multi-challenger event is feasible in the Solent. There are other places in the UK with waterfront space  e.g. Plymouth.

 

[Dolphin65]

Sorry for my lack of terminology, I meant a cup event with a challenger pre-selection.

 

[strider470]

What is a classic event?

If it were the Americans against the British, in a race around the Isle of Wight, it would have been a rematch of a classic event. This is only a farce, and a cash cow for ETNZ.

 

[Dolphin65]

In case of 1-1 event, I'd ask Max sirena (and Patrizio), to spend one year in New Zealand of DAILY racings against vs American Magic so that both teams can improve and experiment modifications on existing boats

 

[strider470]

In case of 1-1 event, I'd ask Max sirena (and Patrizio), to spend one year in New Zealand of DAILY racings against vs American Magic so that both teams can improve and experiment modifications on existing boats

Bertelli should hold a second edition of the Prada Cup, in Cagliari, with AM and Alinghi (using LR B1).

 

[JALhazmat]

AC 37 will be some sort of a farce: a cash cow for ETNZ and the only viable way to get guaranteed access to the Match for INEOS. If you can't win it, buy it. AC 38 will be won in the next 18 months of development, starting from now. Any team beginning development after AC37 and thinking to have a chance of winning will be doomed to lose helplessly. I hope the 1 - 1 match will be the ultimate cause of losing AC38 for both Ineos and ETNZ.
What I fear the most is that with this precedent in place, we are likely to have other 1 - 1 matches in the future, and this should concern many AC enthusiasts and especially ETNZ as a team, in my opinion...

Why didn’t Prada challenge then? 

 

[The Advocate]

In case of 1-1 event, I'd ask Max sirena (and Patrizio), to spend one year in New Zealand of DAILY racings against vs American Magic so that both teams can improve and experiment modifications on existing boats

That would be quite amusing. A few teams setting up camp in NZL training and developing, learning the conditions better and filling the fuck out of the NZL media whilst the 378's are off playing catch my checkbook.

 

[strider470]

Why didn’t Prada challenge then? 

I'm confident you can find the answer on you own.

 

[Dolphin65]

Bertelli should hold a second edition of the Prada Cup, in Cagliari, with AM and Alinghi (using LR B1).

Strider, one event is not enough. If we want to bridge the gap with the kiwis we have to push hard both on practicing and making changes on existing boats, gaining as much as possible data which will be used to build the next boat for AC38

 

[strider470]

That would be quite amusing. A few teams setting up camp in NZL training and developing, learning the conditions better and filling the fuck out of the NZL media whilst the 378's are off playing catch my checkbook.

Cagliari would be a better choice. But the idea is interesting.

 

[The Advocate]

Strider, one event is not enough. If we want to bridge the gap with the kiwis we have to push hard both on practicing and making changes on existing boats, gaining as much as possible data which will be used to build the next boat for AC38

A few teams setting up camp in NZL training and developing, learning the conditions better and filling the fuck out of the NZL media whilst the 378's are off playing catch my checkbook.

and doing practice regattas!

 

[Sailbydate]

So, in ETNZ's press release about AC37 and appointment of CoR, they signalled costcutting measures to be agreed between ETNZ/CoR.

"The Defender and the Challenger of Record, will be investigating and agreeing a meaningful package of campaign cost reduction measures including measures to attract a higher number of Challengers and to assist with the establishment of new teams. 

What do you suppose might be included in this 'package'?

1) Salary Caps?

2) More OD components?

3) CiC removal for legacy yachts?

4) Design packages and built yachts for sale (Ex ETNZ)?

4) Discounted fees and charges for 'emerging country' Challengers?

4) Discounted crew airfares from AC preferred airline (GD takes a cut though, Emirates  )

5) Subsidised hookers and blow?

6) What?

 

[strider470]

Strider, one event is not enough. If we want to bridge the gap with the kiwis we have to push hard both on practicing and making changes on existing boats, gaining as much as possible data which will be used to build the next boat for AC38

Yes, but too many events stop the developement. They should use every possible resource until signing for AC38 protocol in 18 months

 

[Dolphin65]

Cagliari would be a better choice. But the idea is interesting.

Only for us Italians. On an AC campaign perspective, it would make more sense to keep open the operations in Auckland, and kee running! 

 

[strider470]

Only for us Italians. On an AC campaign perspective, it would make more sense to keep open the operations in Auckland, and kee running! 

You are probably right. I was selfishly thinking about the possibility to go to Cagliari myself

 

[Dolphin65]

Yes, but too many events stop the developement. They should use every possible resource until signing for AC38 protocol in 18 months

You don't want too many events. Get on the water every single day with the Americans and fight for hard races, grab data, allow modifications on the boats for one year. Just drop a few events to attract medias and hold fans attention